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Thats it. I am canceling my pre-order

LanceButters

Registered User
Here is why :http://youtu.be/YKziHiG1ALE


PES15 has the same kind of scripting as in fifa. Situations like that always happen when i am leading. Already happened 4 times. I am really disappointed. This will cause too much frustration when we play online. I think its safe to say that real comptetition won't exist in onlinr gaming anymore, since scripting or handocapping become s common. Just cant belive it.
 

angryfootball

Registered User
Here is why :http://youtu.be/YKziHiG1ALE


PES15 has the same kind of scripting as in fifa. Situations like that always happen when i am leading. Already happened 4 times. I am really disappointed. This will cause too much frustration when we play online. I think its safe to say that real comptetition won't exist in onlinr gaming anymore, since scripting or handocapping become s common. Just cant belive it.

Can you fill me in on how online could possibly be scripted if you have real life people controlling the team?
 

issarajevo

Registered User
I see you haven't tried to kick the ball out of 16. Maybe that would do the difference?
But yes, this is the real reason for cancel, I'm sure many will follow you there. I will. Thank you.
 

LanceButters

Registered User
I see you haven't tried to kick the ball out of 16. Maybe that would do the difference?
But yes, this is the real reason for cancel, I'm sure many will follow you there. I will. Thank you.

Thats the another problem. I pressed clear button like crazy and boateng still handed the ball to him.
 

Ali

It is happening again
Can you fill me in on how online could possibly be scripted if you have real life people controlling the team?

There is still an element of scripting in player vs player matches, both in PES and Fifa. You know, the rather "convenient" deflections in your box, players failing to control the ball, passes not going in the direction you aim, players "stuttering" when running. All these tricks. It's just the way it is.
 

Eisuke

Moderator
That's funny. There is scripting in any computer game. But people notice it until whenever it harms them. Then they themselves benefit from it, they think they have skill... :D :D :D
 

LanceButters

Registered User
That's funny. There is scripting in any computer game. But people notice it until whenever it harms them. Then they themselves benefit from it, they think they have skill... :D :D :D

I don't think that scripting in other games is as relevant as in competition games such as fifa, pes or cod.
 

Ali

It is happening again
That's funny. There is scripting in any computer game. But people notice it until whenever it harms them. Then they themselves benefit from it, they think they have skill... :D :D :D

I notice scripting when it benefits myself. :D

Anyway, it's not all scripted of course, there is obviously some skill involved. But put it this way, how often have you seen it where the opposition scores straight after you score due to one of your defenders going AWOL or some dodgy deflection?
 

paul2478

Moderator
I've said it before, but all sports games need some element of scripting to give them the realism of real life sports & stop them becoming boring once you have mastered the game.

The early PES games on PS2 that didn't have it were a prime example as it was just a matter of how many goals you would win by. There is however I believe no reason for there to be scripting when play against another human opponent online or offline ;)
 

Ali

It is happening again
I've said it before, but all sports games need some element of scripting to give them the realism of real life sports & stop them becoming boring once you have mastered the game.

I just wish they tried to hide it better. It's more than a tad annoying when you know there's going to be a goal and you just feel powerless in preventing it.
 

paul2478

Moderator
I just wish they tried to hide it better. It's more than a tad annoying when you know there's going to be a goal and you just feel powerless in preventing it.

True, I just get bored with all the post about scripting which of course there wouldn't be if it was hidden better.
 

LanceButters

Registered User
I will just feel cheated and frustrated online. In fifa its even worse, the game is completely different due to the scripting. I am not a sore loser i am even division 1 but decided to stop playing because i didn't earn it by myself.

I dont knpw yet why nobody sued ea. They have something called arena where one can play for money through virgin gaming. The scripting can make the better play lose and takes the money from him, which is imo a scam.


But back to PES. This should not be. Different opponents will bring different challenge everytime there is no need for scripting. It is just not real. And it doesn't matter if it benefits the opponent or me. A game like fifa or pes should be skill vs skill.

I personally think it will be worse on myclub , just like in fifas UT.
 

skickahit10

Registered User
Here is why :http://youtu.be/YKziHiG1ALE


PES15 has the same kind of scripting as in fifa. Situations like that always happen when i am leading. Already happened 4 times. I am really disappointed. This will cause too much frustration when we play online. I think its safe to say that real comptetition won't exist in onlinr gaming anymore, since scripting or handocapping become s common. Just cant belive it.


Doesn't look like scripting to me - rather poor AI.

In these cases - where the goal is wide open and you are one on one - I actually wished there was a script that made the player clear the ball automatically.
 

El Niche

Registered User
I agree this shouldn't happen. But I also agree this is more poor AI than scripting. Tbh, I haven't seen much scripting in 2015. I always saw it in past games.

If you are up in the lead, I have noticed that the AI pushes more offense so they will attack more, you have to use strategy against this. I have had games where they push and score on me, but sometimes they get burned and I'm able to counter attack this resulting in a score for me.

Anyway, wait for the final release and reviews to see if its a major complaint.
 

Le Carcajou

Registered User
IMO the scripting in a 1 v 1 (1 vs PC indeed) match is only the game's intepretation of possesion. While one team is finding to score, theier players are faster, the passes are more accurate, the other team starts losing balls, and feeling like it's losing response, etc.

In a real life football match, when a team start playing better and takes control of the match doing well passing, shooting near the GK, etc. is normal that the other team starts feeling that theat, getting anxious and losing some control.

This has been always a PES feature and i respect that because is a real fact in football. You need to recover the possesion by getting confidence with safe passing.

When i take bennefit of this i feel fine, because it means i'm playing better.
When it harms me i know i need to make some changes.

It's really an overvalued topic...i mean...IT'S A GAME!
 

Ali

It is happening again
After years of crying about the scripting in PES, I can honestly say that the scripting on Legendary difficulty in Fifa 15 puts it to shame. It's fucking ludicrous.
 

TeknoBug

Registered User
If you follow EA's NHL series and heard of the "ice tilt", well what's been described in here is similar to ice tilt, where your team just becomes retarded and the other team has the advantage (usually when you're ahead in score) and the "catch up AI" in EA Sports games in general can be ridiculous and atrocious that you just want to throw the controller at the screen when you've put 110% effort into keeping the lead (pretty bad in FIFA especially but you can abuse the AI by running into them and making them take yellow/red cards, and can be apparent in Madden where your team just forgets how to pass and carry the ball). But of course there are people that will tell you that mechanic doesn't exist, and after having played several different sports games on both PC and console for 30 some odd years, I can tell you it exists (started in 2008 or 2009 in most EA games, etc). So... yeah I'm not surprised if Konami adapts this into PES.
 

Le Carcajou

Registered User
That's why i left it, doing all the passing and finally scoring and receive a goal 30 seconds later. This happened 4 times IN ONLY ONE MATCH. The score: 5-4, i won but got that feeling of...
 

LanceButters

Registered User
I admit the scripting in pes is nothing compare d to fifa. In fifa they basically have match fixing. I am just disappointed to see something similar in a different game. In fifa it got worse since Ultimate Team, because alot of money is involved. Who knows if it don't get worse aswell in myclub.
 
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