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this game seems to reward slower internet connections

DIECI

Registered User
Maybe its me but whenever I play online and I run into people from South America/Central America/Mexico the game is mostly laggy. I have crazy button lag and can't seem to get my guys to do what I want when I want it to . On the other end, my opponents don't seem to be affected by my issues and seemingly play a regular game. How do I know this you ask? Well first of all at HT of some games I aske them if they are lagging and while most don't even answer, the ones that do say "NO". Then I could also tell by the way the person is using their team, passing the ball etc. Usually when I play people in the USA, and in my community especially I don't have these issues.....

Thoughts?
 

ferdinand001

Registered User
Have to say, that IMO this is a real issue...

I have a 8 mb down/ 2mb up connection speed... and i live in Santiago, Chile ( South America)... Every time that play against people in countrys like Mexico, Brazil, Central America( Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Guatemala, Honduras), Colombia, Ecuador...i experience lag issues... this lag issues seems to affect my play, but not the opponent play...

I make my investigantion about the issue ,and with speedtest.com and pingtest.com, now i know that countries like Mexico or Brazil are in 125-140 ranking in a 250 countries ranking, about average home speed connections... The average speed connections ins countries like that is something like 1 Mb down / 256Kb Up... By the way, Chile its 62 ranked with a home average of 2Mb/512Kb...

My concern its " If i have better connection that my opponent, can the system downgrade my connection to equalize with my opponent connection speed resulting in a laggy experience for the better connection owner?...

I make a little experiment:

Play against some XBOX users that i know have lag, dued to bad connections speed...(most of the brazilians and mexicans pals)... with my broadband at full speed settings... the result was laggy games for my and flawless victorys for my opponents...

Then i take my router and change the configuration to downscale the speed at 2 or 1MB Down...and the results are almost flawless games and mostly wins... but my opponents calling my a lagger... ( In first place, I wasnt lagger , obviously, because they win)...

My point is, i am pretty shore that something in the online system of pes 2010 rewards lower internet connections speeds...
Now, everytime i play online PES 2010, i decrease my speed to 2MB down and my experience with the game is really better... something like this:

Without decreasing Speed= 70% laggy games for me.
Decreasing Speed= 20% of laggy games for me.

IMO this is a shame... now in the 21 century we need bad internet connections to play a proper online game with PES...just a shame.
 

DIECI

Registered User
how do you decrease your internet speed? Also I started playing wired this weekend and its been 10000000000000000000000000000 times better online!

and more importantly, how is everything in Santiago? You guys are getting bombarded with earthquakes! be safe !
 

ferdinand001

Registered User
In Santiago the situation its almost normal... The problem is in some south areas of the country..mostly Concepcion and Constitucion, nearest dense populated areas to the hepicenter of the megadisaster in Feb, 27... they have been strongly violent shaked by a 8,8 richter earthquake with a Tsunami with waves at least in the order of 20 meters the smaler. That zone of the country was devastated... now the army is in charge and the things there are going normal...but the rebuilding process is going to take almost 3 years...

In the topic, i decrease my broadband modding my router...the router is configurated by the companies that make the router... if you buy a connection to X MB down, you can enter into the core of the router and decrease the configuration to an your desired speed...

I play wired broadband decreased speed the last 2 weeks and have to say, that for me it work really well.

Meybe for people in USA or Europe, dont need to decrease the speed, just because ( i think) that you have better internet conections that south americans..

Greettings pal
 

Steveholmes68

Registered User
Maybe its me but whenever I play online and I run into people from South America/Central America/Mexico the game is mostly laggy. I have crazy button lag and can't seem to get my guys to do what I want when I want it to . On the other end, my opponents don't seem to be affected by my issues and seemingly play a regular game. How do I know this you ask? Well first of all at HT of some games I aske them if they are lagging and while most don't even answer, the ones that do say "NO". Then I could also tell by the way the person is using their team, passing the ball etc. Usually when I play people in the USA, and in my community especially I don't have these issues.....

Thoughts?

Completely agree. Played some quick matches last night, my connection green the other connection red. Experienced button delay, lag & players moving so slowly. The opponent team seemed to play flawlessly. When playing in community this never happens when we both have green connections. It sucks.
 

DIECI

Registered User
Completely agree. Played some quick matches last night, my connection green the other connection red. Experienced button delay, lag & players moving so slowly. The opponent team seemed to play flawlessly. When playing in community this never happens when we both have green connections. It sucks.


and you're playing wired right? not wireles??

In any case, Ive been playing less and less quick match, the more we have everyone online I tend to stay away from the quick matches and stick to community as much as possible!
 

SeanBless

Registered User
Maybe its me but whenever I play online and I run into people from South America/Central America/Mexico the game is mostly laggy. I have crazy button lag and can't seem to get my guys to do what I want when I want it to . On the other end, my opponents don't seem to be affected by my issues and seemingly play a regular game. How do I know this you ask? Well first of all at HT of some games I aske them if they are lagging and while most don't even answer, the ones that do say "NO". Then I could also tell by the way the person is using their team, passing the ball etc. Usually when I play people in the USA, and in my community especially I don't have these issues.....

Thoughts?

Same thing,

Whenever i play someone from South America (Brazil, etc)
I get 2 seconds lag.

NA is another story. They are lag free
Too bad the lobby is always full
It's much easier to do quick match
 

VonniJames

Registered User
WOW konami really is f**king us over with this lag, I literally hate this game now just because of the damn lag. But i'll try and throttle my internet and see if i get less lag
 

6666

Registered User
Have to say, that IMO this is a real issue...

I have a 8 mb down/ 2mb up connection speed... and i live in Santiago, Chile ( South America)... Every time that play against people in countrys like Mexico, Brazil, Central America( Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Guatemala, Honduras), Colombia, Ecuador...i experience lag issues... this lag issues seems to affect my play, but not the opponent play...

I make my investigantion about the issue ,and with speedtest.com and pingtest.com, now i know that countries like Mexico or Brazil are in 125-140 ranking in a 250 countries ranking, about average home speed connections... The average speed connections ins countries like that is something like 1 Mb down / 256Kb Up... By the way, Chile its 62 ranked with a home average of 2Mb/512Kb...

My concern its " If i have better connection that my opponent, can the system downgrade my connection to equalize with my opponent connection speed resulting in a laggy experience for the better connection owner?...

I make a little experiment:

Play against some XBOX users that i know have lag, dued to bad connections speed...(most of the brazilians and mexicans pals)... with my broadband at full speed settings... the result was laggy games for my and flawless victorys for my opponents...

Then i take my router and change the configuration to downscale the speed at 2 or 1MB Down...and the results are almost flawless games and mostly wins... but my opponents calling my a lagger... ( In first place, I wasnt lagger , obviously, because they win)...

My point is, i am pretty shore that something in the online system of pes 2010 rewards lower internet connections speeds...
Now, everytime i play online PES 2010, i decrease my speed to 2MB down and my experience with the game is really better... something like this:

Without decreasing Speed= 70% laggy games for me.
Decreasing Speed= 20% of laggy games for me.

IMO this is a shame... now in the 21 century we need bad internet connections to play a proper online game with PES...just a shame.

Hi there mate..

thanks to your little experiment you just helped me complete my concerns on this awful Konami issue about regarding low internet users the benefit making people like myself who has 16mps download speed! 2.5mps upload speed.. with pings at 12 ms lol and people in other countries just winning due to the horrible conncection..

But i cudnt help notice that you said you lowered your connection speed?
how did you manage to do that?
 
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