Unofficial - How are you doing in Master League?

[Suker09]

After one long week of editing I finally tried out this years ML this evening. :lol:

First thing I recognized is the fact that all player stats are visible now for all players on the player search.

I maybe wrong and confuse things with the football manager series I play from time to time, but in the past installements of the PES Series you had to scout the players to see their stats. Or am I wrong?

Is there anything in the settings for ML I overlooked?

 

[.Lee.]

First thing I recognized is the fact that all player stats are visible now for all players on the player search.

I maybe wrong and confuse things with the football manager series I play from time to time, but in the past installements of the PES Series you had to scout the players to see their stats. Or am I wrong?

You are correct Sir. Last year you could only see a players overall rating and position, unless you had one of the higher level scouts one of which was said to "Be able to see how good a player is, without watching them play"

1 thing they have brought back from PES 2010 is being able to search for players though "Player Indexing" e.g. "Goal poacher" "Fox in the Box"

This was something I missed in PES 2011, and makes searching for a certain type of player a little less time consuming.

 

[Suker09]

You are correct Sir. Last year you could only see a players overall rating and position, unless you had one of the higher level scouts one of which was said to "Be able to see how good a player is, without watching them play"

1 thing they have brought back from PES 2010 is being able to search for players though "Player Indexing" e.g. "Goal poacher" "Fox in the Box"

This was something I missed in PES 2011, and makes searching for a certain type of player a little less time consuming.

Thanks for the info. Bad thing Konami. I loved the scouting aspect with my low level scouts when I start with a 2. league team in the ML... :realmad:

The return of the more detailed player search of PES 2010 is indeed a good thing.

 

[Andy99]

How is the CPU transfers in Master League this time around?

It's dreadful to see world class players like Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney leave their respective clubs already in the first transfer window, or loyal players like Gerrard, Terry and Giggs leave their clubs.

It ruins the fun of ML to me, as just after one season meeting Barcelona, Real Madrid or Manchester United is a walk in the park, and suddenly a club like Everton, with all respect, is lifting the Premier League trophy after the first season.

 

[abu97]

its been toned down but not by much as you still see retarded transfers

 

[Suker09]

its been toned down but not by much as you still see retarded transfers

Do you play with "transfer frequenzy" set to "low"? It doesn't change the retarded transfers but the chance for them will be reduced as there aren't that much transfers.

I agree that some transfers in my 2011 ML were ridiculous! e.g. Messi to Real Madrid, Guti to Barca ... :lol:

It can't be that difficult for Konami to give players like Casillas, Gerrard, Totti, Puyol, Del Pierro... a secret stat that the will never leave their club or at least that they will never go to their biggest rivals.

 

[Rasmus]

^ Exactly. I haven't discovered any so far, but they will come for sure. Every year i see as you mention Messi to Real, Rooney to City, Gerrard to Chelsea etc.

 

[ilyasmad]

Playing with the original team is so hard on professional -1 speed. This game really emphasizes every single player on the team. I bought 2 wingers and a dmf to buff up the midfield. Though i could pass the ball well and control the midfield, i realized that was a big mistake. The default team's defenders and strikers are bloody awful. Out of all the shots, 90 percent was either caught by the goalkeeper or missed; the only goals i scored was headers, tap ins and running around the goalkeeper for one on one(goalkeepers are pretty awful in one on ones). The defenders always leave gaps and cant outmuscle anyonep; i play a deep line. During the winter transfer window its a must to buy strikers especially with good shot power. It's just so frustrating. I must say though this is shaping upto be the best Master League for me. The AI is so good, defending is simply fun for the first time and every player matters. Never again would i neglect buying defenders last; which i usually do in all the last pes i've played. I'm thinking of switching it to regular, which i hardly ever do for any of the pes games.

My record so far is 1W 2D 4L. 3rd last in the league.
Playing this game really gives you a sore thumb.

 

[Andy99]

^ Exactly. I haven't discovered any so far, but they will come for sure. Every year i see as you mention Messi to Real, Rooney to City, Gerrard to Chelsea etc.

How far in your ML season are you? Also, at what level is your transfer frequency set to? Low, Normal or High?

I know I'm a bit sad as I care way too much about realism in a video game, but playing Real Madrid I should have troubles defending Cristiano Ronaldo, not Lionel Messi.

 

[stiker]

hi all i am new here,
this game is frustrating but i like it, played ML straight away, top player, defualt players like i've always done, man, didnt win a game 1st half of the season, managed just 1 signing in winter, one mid fielder and he makes such a difference..., have one win now thou, ML defualt players are so useless.... signin players is much harder too. can wait to get home and continue...A.I plays so well, defending is a nightmare... i wonder wot will happen when i come across barca...or one of the top teams

 

[techboy11]

I generally start as Liverpool with the club lineup, never used to but on next gen, I don't know, I just do. I feel like I'm missing out on something though when all you guys complain (but in a good way) about it being hard and the need for the transfer window etc etc. Think I'll reboot it with the default players, give that a whirl. Normally play on Top Player, but I have a feeling pro or even regular may be the way to go in this mode.

 

[.Lee.]

I'm thinking of switching it to regular, which i hardly ever do for any of the pes games.

My record so far is 1W 2D 4L. 3rd last in the league.
Playing this game really gives you a sore thumb.

Don't put it down to regular, it's very boring although you will win a lot more games, you never score great goals as you figure out a way to score and use it too often. The excitement of scoring goes when you knock it down to regular. I did this for a few games when I was getting frustrated and won 3 games too easily, so knocked it back up to Pro.

Your record, although you might not believe me, isn't that bad with the default ML team, they're shite, flying controller shite at times.

In my 1st season I finished 4th from bottom in D2 using my tried and tested 4-1-2-1-2 formation from PES2011. My defence was weak, my midfield couldn't maintain possession, and my attackers rarely saw the ball, never mind score when they got it. Tactics had to change if I was going to maintain a promotion threat the following season.

So I built from the back with the little funds I had, buying a CB to partner Palimeri albeit only a 71 Overall rated player, a DMF of similar ability I switched to a more Defence Heavy Formation, 4-5-1 with 2 DMF, 2 SMF and 1 AMF/CMF.

Games this season have been far from the beautiful games I was playing
only weeks ago on PES2011, but results have come, 1-0s and 0-0s are common place more so the latter, but come the winter transfer period I was sitting in 6th with zero defeats, but a crap load of draws.

I spent what little budget I had left on a CF, again nothing special (68 over all) to try and find a player to put the damn ball in the onion bag, as Ordaz wasn't up to the task.

With 8 games to go I'm 2nd.......just, not much in it between the top 5 tbh, and might get up to the Premier League.

Fingers Crossed, not while playing ofc, that would be stupid.

 

[stingo]

Beware guys, I got fired finally in the first half of the 2d season (professional and -1 speed)! I restarted on regular and 0 speed and now sitting at the 2d place after ten games. The game is unbalanced. There should be a level between regular and professional.

 

[stiker]

Beware guys, I got fired finally in the first half of the 2d season (professional and -1 speed)! I restarted on regular and 0 speed and now sitting at the 2d place after ten games. The game is unbalanced. There should be a level between regular and professional.

you can get fired in master league???:shocking::shocking::shocking:

i've got 2 wins in a row.... leading a game now...

tweeked my strategy, 1 is normal, 2 counter attack, 3 all out attack 4, is all out defence...

switch in and out depending on the situation

after i score a goal, i go defensive, cause the A.I. is always out for revenge after conceeding,
anyone notice how these a.i. teams dont miss free kicks???

 

[Andy99]

Sorry to keep pushing on with this, but it's a major part of me enjoying ML or not.

Can somebody who's in the 2nd or 3rd season of ML tell me how the CPU transfers are? I will accept some crazy transfers, but is every single star player moving on to rival clubs and such, which was the fact with ML in PES 2011.

 

[.Lee.]

Beware guys, I got fired finally in the first half of the 2d season (professional and -1 speed)! I restarted on regular and 0 speed and now sitting at the 2d place after ten games. The game is unbalanced. There should be a level between regular and professional.

Why did you get fired? didn't you complete the side missions? I knew it was possible to get fired if the chairman loses faith in you, so in my 1st season, when i was given a mission I made sure I passed it so i'd get a little boost of confidence from the chairman.

Now though he can go to hell if he wants me to play a bad player for 30mins....he never picks someone good does he?

 

[.Lee.]

anyone notice how these a.i. teams dont miss free kicks???

Yeh i know it's a bit of a pain Try putting a tall player on the opposite post to the wall if you can, doesn't always work but i have had a few goal line clearances from freekicks using that tactic.

And your right about your opponents pressuring you after they have conceded a goal. Some teams counter attack strategy works then, a few times i have had good break aways from teams pressuring me after I have gone a goal up.

Still having trouble with convincing wins though. Winning by the odd goal, but 3 points is 3 points regardless of how many you score.

 

[.Lee.]

Sorry to keep pushing on with this, but it's a major part of me enjoying ML or not.

Can somebody who's in the 2nd or 3rd season of ML tell me how the CPU transfers are? I will accept some crazy transfers, but is every single star player moving on to rival clubs and such, which was the fact with ML in PES 2011.

Had a look though the premier league and la liga after reading a post asking this. The BIG players all seem to be still at there current clubs and this is after 3 transfer windows as I'm comming to the end of my 2nd season.

You can turn transfers off completely if you want, only your club can sign players, but I think that would be a bit far.

Although I may have this when I start my BAL campaign.

 

[stingo]

Why did you get fired? didn't you complete the side missions? I knew it was possible to get fired if the chairman loses faith in you, so in my 1st season, when i was given a mission I made sure I passed it so i'd get a little boost of confidence from the chairman.

Now though he can go to hell if he wants me to play a bad player for 30mins....he never picks someone good does he?

I completed missions fine they have very little effect, but losing games does. You get fired when his backing hits zero and it does if you keep on losing and hanging at or near the last place. Second year I had slightly better team, but I was playing a little worse myself. Yet even if I played my best game I would still get fired but a little later probably. I am annoyed by craziness of AI at professional when it always(!) outruns you and pushes off the ball with a player with equal or worse stats. They are way too organized in defense too for a second league team. I actually like the gameplay on regular now because equal players are equal except that I wish cpu was less forgiving when attacking you. Playing on professional is good with a team like barca in pes2012, but not in ML. In Ml strikers blow a lot of chances on regular and on professional I created even less but they blow at the same rate so scoring a goal in one game was quite an achievement. May be playing at 0 speed is better though, because I was able to stay clean sheet 4 games in a row when I tried 0 speed setting (on prof) during the season.

 

[Rasmus]

anyone notice how these a.i. teams dont miss free kicks???

Indeed!! And i've only scored once myself! It's so frustrating to see a team like szelawce in div 2 scoring on 3 of 3 free kicks in a game. Every time the cpu team gets a free kick from 20-25 meters they score - no matter what team and which player - and it's completely useless placing a defender on the goal line. MAJOR bug in my opinion. however the fk's are way more realistic from a further distance than the above mentioned