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What Do You Want In PES16?

Lörd TH

Registered User
Ok so around this time, normally a bit closer to E3 we tend to hear more about this years football games. We've all had at least 5 months with the game, what do you want Konami to improve on? Obviously there's some rather obvious which need to be improved on for PES16


  • Option files - with ability to upload images
    More Licenses
    Stadium Editor
    Quicker Updates
    Improved Graphics
    More Leagues
    Larger selection of boots
    More animations
    Cloth physics
    Day to night lighting when playing
    Dynamic weather and pitch degradation
 

Ali

It is happening again
- Option files for sure.
- No more automated straight line player runs - I want to control where my player moves ffs, without any need for super cancel or any of that crap.
- Better replays.
- More than 10 music tracks!
- Improvements to ML - including creating a custom team, having custom kits specific to ML..... you know, all things that were possible in PES fucking 6!
- Proper youth player system in ML, similar to Fifa. ie no more 16 yr old Lampards etc.
- Better default player faces - they all look the same in PES 2015!
- Up to date squads!!! It's not difficult!!
- Better goalkeeping.
- Better opposition AI.
- Better teammate AI.

Jeez.... I could go on, but I can't be arsed.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
This one alone should suffice: don't fuck with PC gamers, give his the same you give to the others.

Plus all [MENTION=180348]Ali[/MENTION] said. Although "better" is too vague, we do need an AI who can play better with increasing difficulty, not getting more superhuman or diminishing our player's abilities.
 

Ali

It is happening again
Plus all [MENTION=180348]Ali[/MENTION] said. Although "better" is too vague, we do need an AI who can play better with increasing difficulty, not getting more superhuman or diminishing our player's abilities.

I've never found the AI to be superhuman, but it's the tactics they employ - there's little variation. Most of the goals come from when they run to the wing, dance around your fullback and pass it to the striker at the near post, who will then hold off the defender, turn and place it in the far striker.
Plus there's the times when they play keep-ball at the back.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
I've never found the AI to be superhuman, but it's the tactics they employ - there's little variation. Most of the goals come from when they run to the wing, dance around your fullback and pass it to the striker at the near post, who will then hold off the defender, turn and place it in the far striker.
Plus there's the times when they play keep-ball at the back.

The fucking possession they use around their back when you are winning is superhuman. The wingers having magnets which repel your players, that is superhuman. I was refering to that kind of stuff.

The main problems with PES2015 gameplay wise are these two motherfucking stupid things, and the always similar playing style. Either they score goals from the wingers maness, or have a Andy Carroll upfront, high pass to him, you will not be able to take the ball from him, and pray for the keeper to save it. No matter the team.

As an example. I'm playing in TP right now, it just isn't as "superhuman" as SS. I've installed a chants pack (glorious mod btw, it adds a really, really intense atmosphere, great stuff) and tested it in a Exhibition match, Real vs Barça. They didn't had a single shot. I man-marked Messi and Neymar, and they had absolutely zero solutions attacking wise.



And this proves yet another problem, the importance the game gives to certain teams and players. No matter how well I play, if I play with Real it will be easier. Our own players play better, the opposition plays worse. It's just like the Pressure ability in Pokemon :D

In summary, if this gets solved, we will have a hell of a great game, gameplay wise.

Edit: Those 3 faults resulted in 3 yellow cards. And that brings us to another fucking problem: referees. I don't think this matter needs more discussion.
 

Lörd TH

Registered User
The stamina issue must be fixed as well, I'm shocked that it hasn't already though. I'd also like to see some official broadcast licenses used, FIFA has Sky so PES should have BT Sport or something similar, commentary needs a major overhaul as well. It needs to be much more fluid.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
The stamina issue must be fixed as well, I'm shocked that it hasn't already though. I'd also like to see some official broadcast licenses used, FIFA has Sky so PES should have BT Sport or something similar, commentary needs a major overhaul as well. It needs to be much more fluid.

+1. The stamina issue is just ridiculous, how could they fuck that up? It's the first time I've seen such thing in a football game
 

Swanee

Registered User
Get rid of the fake teams and leagues eg PES United etc Surely they could add a real league with fake teams like the bundesliga. Replays need to be improved as a lot are shown from awkward angles where you can't see the play properly. The ability to save more than 10 goal replays its a joke considering i've a 500gb PS4 Stadiums....a lot more stadiums even if they are fake again considering the age we are in now to only have a handful of stadiums in the game is a joke. One thing i'd like to see would be classic club teams from through the ages i know it won't be added but it would be great feature to play a classic champions league, maybe as an unlockable feature
 

TommyC0ckles

New Member
Coming from PS4 point of view

If not the ability to import images, option files, give us a work around. Maybe an external site where editors can post their work and subscribers can directly download onto their game file. (like Rockstar do with crew logo/info in GTA Online)

If not even that, then pixel editor back

If this is the future of stadium 'editor', then more fake stadiums to mod. Also more options. (ideally the old stadium creator will be back)

I miss Community offline mode, for getting together with your mates and playing out a league. If not then the ability to automate results in a multiplayer league.

Collision system fixed

Player select improved

Why not give us the option to create a team, like create a player, instead of PEU, PLA, PAS, I would like to have a number of blank team slots (for next gen and PC you could even allow us more) where we can decide what leagues to put teams in, where they are from in the World. This is me though, people who edit and create option files may have other views.

Mainly I want what PES always was to me, a great football game that I had the options to customise to how I want it. Right now on PS4 it's an ok football game with no customisation.
 

motherhen

Registered User
Get rid of the fake teams and leagues eg PES United etc Surely they could add a real league with fake teams like the bundesliga.

Bundesliga is impossible due to exclusive licencing they have with EA. They can't even have a fake one. That stopped in PES 5.

The best leagues after that are maybe the Turkish/Russian? But again, we are not aware if they are prevented on that front.
I would be interested in the MLS being added. But, i believe that's also an exclusive to EA...
 

Ali

It is happening again
Here's another thing I've thought of - in ML when a player gets injured or suspended, it messes up your squad lineup/subs, and doesn't put the injured/suspended player back in place when they return... it's a tad annoying.
 

motherhen

Registered User
I ain't even played ML yet... I liked it when players didn't age so i could create a super team. That was what? PES 4? :)
 

rebelinho

Moderator
more formation/tactic save slots 3 is not enough

And even worse, they are saved into your data file. So if you always play in specific datas with your mates, they will have the ones they saved, and can´t use yours. This is a bit difficult to explain... The 1st player can´t use the 2nd player saved tactics and vice-versa.

Here's another thing I've thought of - in ML when a player gets injured or suspended, it messes up your squad lineup/subs, and doesn't put the injured/suspended player back in place when they return... it's a tad annoying.

And we can't even change their place within the team's management, one thing is not being able to play that lad, another is not being able to move him at all.

I ain't even played ML yet... I liked it when players didn't age so i could create a super team. That was what? PES 4? :)

We used to have "League", which was kinda like a transferless ML. Used to...
 

luketu

Registered User
Better stamina
Player ai (I'm sick of my players standing behind the opposition so every pass is intercepted)
Less scripting
More fouls by ai, I've had about 2 penalties in 500 games
Fix the ai passing it around the back 4
Different tactics from different teams
More stats in master league
Stop the ref booking for every foul
Improve bal mode
Sort the god awful shadows in some stadiums
More tactical options (player run arrows like pes5/6)
Make player stats actually count (a player with 90 speed should outrun a player with 80 speed) simple.
Make it possible to get a cross in
Bring back injuries in ml (make it realistic tho)

Basically make the game good
 

Ali

It is happening again
[MENTION=42836]luketu[/MENTION] - I agree with you on most points, but I actually think the crossing is pretty good. Headers on the other hand....

You make a good point about ML stats. I'm sure you used to be able to see the goals/assists records from previous seasons in older games??
 

luketu

Registered User
I mean the ability to actually get a cross in, I always seem to gave to cut back as I can't outrun anyone to get a clear cross in. Even when the defender is nowhere near they seem to get a brick in some how...
 

IronCity

Banned
I see that the Stamina gauge dips quickly, but i'm not sure if the sapped energy has that great of an affect. I wouldn't want an overhaul here. Better than FIFA where stamina means nothing.

I would like to be able to increase by attack / defend mentality in addition to using the fluid formations. Fluid formations is genius btw. for some teams i don't alter possession / out of possession that much, but a lovely add for the teams i choose to do so.

up the CPU fouls
down the human fouls

Will some game, any game, allow us to choose a header or foot on the volley, please.

a little more manual passing. I use zero assist and sometimes just a light touch of a pass will send it 30yards to find a player.
 

motherhen

Registered User
Years back, the other teams section used to be full of fake teams the couldn't get licences for. Now they never have any.
I'd sure everyone would rather have fake Celtic's, Fenerbache's and Dynamo Kiev's than have to create them from scratch.

Also, over the years, the European nation teams has pretty much stayed the same. 32 is the normal number. I'd like to see more European nations added. Albania, Iceland, San Marino, ect. If they can have loads of lesser nations like UAE, Qatar & Iraq, why not some for Europe?
Its also the same for Africa. I was hoping they'd add the missing ACON teams. But, you can't even replicate the tournament anywhere as there's only 14 nations. Just add two more. Congo and the team that hosted it....
 
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