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What Urgently Needs Fixing for PES 2012?

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Oh yeah, the ball physics are really bad also.......The other day i hit a shot against the post, the ball, hardly moved, it hit the post and fell to the floor like a bowling ball.

The ball doesnt feel like a separate entity in this game at all.

Deflections nearly always end up going to the CPU also, which is suspect may have something to do with the above, the ball physics deffo need improving.

Another Master League one.

The bit at the beginning of master league where you have to try and sign a player of the CPU's choice is silly, they need to get rid of that.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Oh yeah, the ball physics are really bad also.......The other day i hit a shot against the post, the ball, hardly moved, it hit the post and fell to the floor like a bowling ball.

The ball doesnt feel like a separate entity in this game at all.

Deflections nearly always end up going to the CPU also, which is suspect may have something to do with the above, the ball physics deffo need improving.

Another Master League one.

The bit at the beginning of master league where you have to try and sign a player of the CPU's choice is silly, they need to get rid of that.

I had an amusing one where I hit the bar the ball launched up into the air in a straight line, no flight arc or deviation.

It literally spanked off the bar and shot into orbit.

EDIT: Yeah the buying a player intro is obviously a tutorial only needed for lower levels and not at Top Player. I don't like the scout list, it doesn't really do anything, your scout often doesn't even sign anyone on it even when he has full control of transfers.
 

The_whisper

Registered User
The fuckin game engine for fuck's sakes
This game engine tends to change the dynamics of the game play gradually
After playing tons of games now, I can definitely say that the player movements have become jittery, game speed level does not verify it's settings and worst of all, the joke frame rate which is below par on PS3. We play GOW3, U2 on the same machine KONAMI, WTF?
:realmad:
 

Sminky

Registered User
swap bundisliga for edrivision and put ajax and ps3 in other teams...

Good call but I think there's a problem with the bundesliga licensing which is why PES has usually has so few German teams.

The Bundesliga is a superior competition to the Eredivisie so for a more complete ML its the perfect change. I'd like to see them expand into the Asian Champions League and the World Club Cup too. We've got the South American teams so its surely the next step. Imagine a ML where you win a european trophy and enter the World Club Cup - and I don't mean the Konami cup where you play either Boca, River or Internacional - it would be the most complete ML experience.
 

GDog

Registered User
Sminky, without trying to sound stupid, but I think the World Club Cup is in ML.

As far as I think 2011 has come, there is is always going to be room for improvement. Konami should make 2 games. 1 for arcade nuts who switch on and play exhibition. And the other ML with the full works, being sacked, retiring, player swap deals, fining players. the lot....all the stuff we ahve mentioned.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Sminky, without trying to sound stupid, but I think the World Club Cup is in ML.

As far as I think 2011 has come, there is is always going to be room for improvement. Konami should make 2 games. 1 for arcade nuts who switch on and play exhibition. And the other ML with the full works, being sacked, retiring, player swap deals, fining players. the lot....all the stuff we ahve mentioned.

Its more of a stripped down version as it doesn't give many choices other than Boca, River and Internacional.

You maybe onto something there, a standard arcade ML version and a more detailed version management could be workable.
 

superpav

Registered User
i noticed so many dodgy things in pes11. you just know when the computer is guna score and cant do nuffing about it. also when i concede a free kick outside my area and the camera dont let me see the goal so i cant put a player on the line.

all i want is a decent next gen game. is fifa11 any good
 

DunkTheJunk

Registered User
i noticed so many dodgy things in pes11. you just know when the computer is guna score and cant do nuffing about it. also when i concede a free kick outside my area and the camera dont let me see the goal so i cant put a player on the line.

all i want is a decent next gen game. is fifa11 any good

Maybe change your camera to wide? instead of the default, or you could just look on the radar mini map thing to see your players position, simple really.
 

zeemeister

Registered User
Great pic, shame that once you get to the text next to the picture, its a let down.

Zeemeister is talking out of his backside here......talking about making teams play how they play in real life by edit the team tactics in edit mode.........:rolleyes:
Bla, bla, bla...........

My word you are a fucking half wit.
Please do me as favour and remove your head from your arse and go over to the goalgerd and chimps option file and download it.

There you will see how a team is edited to play in a manner that is realistic as to how they will approach a match in real life.
Also keep in mind that a volley is the worst example of a players ability as even sunday league players can hit amazing shots with a ball that has momentum. It's not to say they will hit it everytime but when they do the results are usually pretty spectacular.

Anything can happen in football Hercules beat Barca, Liverpool are in the relegation zone. Not everything pans out in real life as it does in your little world. PES tries to emulate this albeit in a cheap manner by having your team on bad form when you play away from home but this makes it more exciting to win a match.

Adios

@Proevolutalon prove it and I'll get her to drop it.
 

Antonyc1977

Registered User
Oh dear, it looks like a clash of opinions... Again! Not being able to beat teams is surely a part of the game? If you win every game, isn't that boring?

A factual frustration with the game... David Weir (40) out-paces Samuel Eto'o to a loose ball.
Come on Konami!

The only gripe I have and which i've had with all Pro Evo's is... 7 minute games... Please give us this option! 5 mins not long enough - 10mins too long!
 

superpav

Registered User
i know i cant win everygame. and for the guy who said about play on wide camera view thats what i do play on. sumtimes when i give a free kick away on edge of area it doesnt pan on the goal so i cant see the goal line to poistion my player on the line
 

Sminky

Registered User
I certainly don't want to win every game as thats not a challenge. On PES2008 I went unbeaten for 3 season with Reggina! Albeit I had some pretty good players but still, I wanted to be challenged. I stand by what I've said, the AI on PES2011 top player is a bit 'odd' at times. I've no desire to stoke that debate further but certainly I'd like to see Konami introduce more to the tactics and teams styles - then hopefully the default settings won't always need changing each year.

By the way, big shout out to Goalgerd, I've been using his option files for years and they are well worth downloading. His 2010 option file made PES2010 a bearable experience.

Pav, I hear you lad, I wear glasses and I'm buggered If I know what the best camera angle is. Wide angle is a strain for the eyes and medium doesn't give enough of the pitch. I'd like to see a zoom option so you can set the distance and angle of the camera manually.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
My word you are a fucking half wit.
Please do me as favour and remove your head from your arse and go over to the goalgerd and chimps option file and download it.

There you will see how a team is edited to play in a manner that is realistic as to how they will approach a match in real life.
Also keep in mind that a volley is the worst example of a players ability as even sunday league players can hit amazing shots with a ball that has momentum. It's not to say they will hit it everytime but when they do the results are usually pretty spectacular.

:rolleyes:

Mega Yawn, Does the option file stop the CPU allowing average players to do things Maradonna himself couldn't?

NO.

The CPU AI does not respect player stats like it should, when it does then you will have a more balanced game.

Here's a tip, start with Spot the dog goes for a walk first, then sit down with mommy (or daddy when you find out who he is) and go through my posts with her helping you read through each paragraph properly.

When your'e actually fucking able to understand the basic concept put through to you, your gold star/doggie biscuit will be in the post.

Moron.
 

Sminky

Registered User
I remember on PES6 something similar, I was Lyon playing against Toulouse and a player called Taider raced past two players held off a third and fired a shot into the top corner, his body balance and speed were in the 60s as was his shooting. Thats definitely an AI issue at Top Player, my friend grumbled about this on earlier PES games and I like many here just brushed it off as sour grapes by him but the more I've played PES2011 the more prevalent and obvious it has become. I don't think many people will notice it though if they are using A grade teams like Barca, Inter, Chelsea, Real Madrid etc. Use a middle ranged team and it becomes apparent.
 

EvoX

New Member
They are many things for Konami to address but all i want is them to do is put in a Player Run button option. Many times, especially on the wings, i'm thinking "Run now into that space you moron!". Thats the only thing about Fifa i like. I want to control my team Konami not you! When the players teamwork stat is higher it's vaguely better but i still want the option to control my attack.
 

Chicharito

Registered User
There are lots of things that need changing for 2012. Player switching needs to be improved, player animations (i.e. passing, dribbling, shooting) need more fluidity, the AI needs to be improved in order to make the BAL mode somewhat playable, and the card-happy referees need toning down as well.
 
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