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whats the best pes

superpav

Registered User
so wich is the best pes on the next gen console.

i loved pes09 just for the gameplay

i have pes12 but some days i love it and some days i hate it

the shooting does my head in but what i really hate is the stupid cutscenes in master league offline

was pes 10 and 11 good in terms of shooting,

so which pes is best 10 or 11 for shooting and master league
 

abu97

Registered User
Pes 2012 defo. Pes 2011 was the most unplayable game ever with over ab exclusive 1million bugs.
Don't even know why KONAMI released that crap
 

techboy11

Registered User
I'm going to be a bit wishy washy here put a few things down in different contexts.

For overall package, completion, addictiveness, the whole shabang, my award for the best footy experience in it's entirety (taking into consideration the era as well) has got to be PES6 PS2.

BUT, I played PES 2011 into the ground, I almost played it every day. I was addicted like a whore needs dick. For all it's failings (CPU blatant cheating), there was something completely satisfying when it all came together, and after the first season when you had added to the squad you could really see players take shape. Many said it was unresponsive, I disagree. The difference in controlling someone like Jamie Carragher to someone like Forlan was night and day, one was cumbersome yet strong, the other nippy and responsive.

PES2012, hmm, it's a weird one. Everything is there for me, and it's quite possibly the best iteration (when I mod everything on the PC) of football that I've played. It does have spark it does have soul, but I'm not playing it as much as PES 2011. PES 2011 infuriated me, yet captivated me. Before PES 2011 came along, I had no console anger problems, PES 2011 CHANGED ALL THAT. I'm a 29 year old balanced individual; and yet there was something in that game that brought such contrasting emotions out in me that it was borderline frightening. My entire day could swing on the result of one game in the morning, I remember pouting for two days and putting the game away and vowing 'never to play this shit again', and yet, like a loving dog in the corner of the room, PES was looking at me, yearning for love, and all was forgiven. The highs were high, and the lows were low. Never since the PES6 days have I put so much time into finding that right player, looking for youth etc etc. Wins were glorious, it would literally change my mood for a week. I remember Chelsea beat me 3-0, and then 4-1 early in the season, league and cup game. It infuriated me so that I couldn't wait for the return league fixture, man I was pumped. I absolutely trashed them 5-1, to this day it remains my best victory to date (not score-line but the overall quality of my display), every dog has it's day and that was mine, I kept Torres out of the game and Suarez was on fire for me that day.

PES 2011 brought out emotions in me that I haven't felt for years, good or bad lol.
 

metsuri69

Registered User
PES2011 imo.

It's fun to read so much positives about PES11, after reading last year all the rage & pun here about it :D

I have to give my vote to PES11 as well.
TBH, after that comes PES2010, then 6,5, 2009 pretty much. In my opinions the fact that I always play ML with a friend in same team removes some issues (like teammate AI).

So it all seems to look pretty good progresswise for konami doesn't it? :happy:

PES2011, for a few reasons, the reasons might not reflect to "realism but:
- I learned to use individual player trickery much more, as you couldn't simply run past defenders = much more cool goals.
- Shooting has a good random factor in it. Encourages players to shoot, as sometimes you get a screamer, sometimes a crappy shot.
- One rises in ML Team Ranking in reasonable rate compared to PES2010.
- New passing system wipes floors with the old one
- Players had less weight than in 2010, but still more than 2012
- Only bad thing being the AI was still a bit easy, winning 1st division and CL in 3rd season.
- Cursor change problems as playing with 2 players on one team were horrible in the beginning, luckily patches improved this a bit.
- Scored a lot of beauties :D
- AI can actually sometimes score against you. In PES2010, it couldnt.

PES 5,6 were fun but ppl should just let them go already. They were fun games but to claim they were better complete packages than PES2011 for instance is imo just looking at them with nostalgia glasses on.
 

ArvD*

Registered User
360 - PES6 - the BEST online has ever been...

PC - PES5/6 - the BEST offline has ever been...
(Thats With Stadium & Kit Server and other patches/mods attached to it!)
Purely from playing matches in ML...
Not taking into consideration the weaker ML modes etc...
and "extended" option we now have...
 

abu97

Registered User
Pes 2011 had no responsiveness whatsoever!
You could turn properly, cursor changing was hilarious, every player was offside because they had no resopnsiveness, players ran away from thorugh balls as if there was some forcefield to the attacker
 

MozzyEng

Registered User
Pes 12 first and pes 11 second, Cause i only ever played them!. Im sure the older ones were good in there day, But now on a level with super mario games
 

markcross

Banned
PES 5 hands down for me. PES 2012 close second and PES 2011 third.

u seem to spend alot of time either playing pes or in this forum, do u ever find time to service ur wife? if u struggle in that department may i offer my services, i am sure she will have a smile on her face once i have satisfied her needs, an i am not bein nasty steve just tryin to help u out my old pal
 

Pokervriend

Registered User
Pes 4&5 where the best imo. But that's been a long while and not very comparable with the PS3 versions. I find PES 12 way, way better than PES 11. I only play the game online and vs friends, so maybe the ML or playing the CPU was better in 11. Nevertheless, Online, PES 11 was tragic, the most pathetic footy I ever played. PES 10 was (depsite the lag) quite good for online gaming as well.

So;

PES 2012 - 8,3
PES 2010 - 7,6
PES 2011 - 5,5
 

abu97

Registered User
Pes 2012 is the best game for next-gen. Everything has been tweaked from 11 which annoyed the living heck out of us - The players felt like they all weighed 18 stone and turning or cutting inside was like a challenge. Whenever you played a long-ball, everyone would be offside and the ball physics were a shock - when you shot, everyone would have magically 99 shooting power and there was no individuality in that game especially when players like iniesta get caught up by gareth barry or neymar magically pushes Ibrahimovic off the ball and every player would fall with that shocking stumbling animation. Pes 2011 was only addictive when you have offline but overall that game is overrated.
Pes 2012 has it's problems but atleast it looks and plays like a football game
 

DIECI

Registered User
for me I would say like this :

1 Winning Eleven 6 Final Evolution (PS2)
2 PES 6 (PS2)
3 PES 5 (PS2)
4 PES 2010 (PS3)
5 PES 2011 and 2012 both good and both bad but still fun.


to add a bit on 2012.... playing online vs Friends is amazingly fun, playing it against cheaters using Barca is very frustrating, because its so easy to exploint the running and some other features. I think 2012 is the most frustrating online game of the series if you play vs strangers.
 

abu97

Registered User
Pes 2010 was great and had less bugs but was still to basic compared to pes 2012.
Pes 2010 contained the fundamentals of football whilst Pes 2012 tried to enhance an has left a few bugs.
Hope in pes 2013 seabass gets fired and someone can build on pes 2012
 
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