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Your expectations for the forthcoming patch

pj_puttz

Registered User
Are you guys seriously falling for this "the patch will solve everything" shit AGAIN? How many years now have you fell for the same bullshit?

The clue is in the name, it's a PATCH. To do the things you all hope it will do they would have to rebuild the game from scratch. The game is fundamentally broken. If it was a race horse it would be shot. You dont put a band aid onto a fractured skull and expect it to heal.

When has Konami EVER patched a PES game to the level you are hoping it will? Where does your hope come from?

The patch will contain nothing more than cosmetic changes (that should have already been done before release day) wrapped up in plenty of placebo based PR language to make you think they have actually done something to justify the money you paid for their game.

Just like last year......and the year before......and the year before that..........etc.
 

derek3k

Registered User
In the end, i'tired of waiting two months for a patch.
Good bye pes, adieu, i'll play fifa in ps4. I've had enough
 

Muta

Registered User
http://www.soccer-king.jp/sk_column/article/146686.html?pn=1

Use a translator for this article.

The "world soccer winning eleven 2014" for whom the release date on November 14 has pressed immediately before still more.
The latest work to which users all over the country looked forward carried a new engine, and was born again newly.

The Masuda 圭 producer told the whole aspect of "new ウイイレ."
"ウイイレ 2014" which work producer Kei Masuda tells ??

-- first of all, I hear about work of "ウイイレ 2014." When making new work, what kind of thing is having been imagined first?
Masuda Do I hear that No. 1 wants to send the "winning eleven" born again newly to you? For example, there was a point which should be improved also about popular graphics from users the place which cannot be being expressed still more.

Therefore, in Tsukuru Kon, in order to express till the place which was not able to be expressed until now in the future or to raise the quality as a soccer game, it stared fixedly to the next generation and decided introduction of a new engine. And with a new engine, if the "winning eleven" on an unprecedented one rank can be offered was considered.

?? -- please let me know about the point carrying a new engine of the latest work.
Masuda In having introduced a new engine, 今作 is the work truly remade from 1. Therefore, it is an honest thought that I would like you to look at all the elements. However, it will be game balance if one point which concentrated on is mentioned.

I regard a soccer game as the balance of the form searched for by each user and an ideal differing. I thought that the concept of old series was broken down or the challenge to which game balance is changed was also required in order to become a soccer game on a one rank in it.
Therefore, in "2014", trial and error were repeated also modifying game speed and an operational feeling, and it arrived at new game balance.
Although the difference in play feeling may be felt at first by having changed from the previous work, I would like you to feel "winning eleven" new by all means.

?? -- to be sure, 今作 is the impression which changed game balance a lot.
What is the point for enjoying oneself smoothly?
Masuda It is one point that he is conscious of an assembly. Conversely, speed is thought as important, and when it becomes only a play hurried to a front, it may overlap and be in pain [ a mistake ]. I think that a play can be enjoyed without feeling difficulty so much if it has the consciousness which carries out buildup, using a back pass occasionally.

Since A.I. Artificial Intelligence is also further strengthened with Tsukuru Kon and support of an ally can be received more than the former, I consider that it is better to coordinate with a teammate and to play, checking the surrounding situation by offense-and-defense both sides.

"ウイイレ 2014" which work producer Kei Masuda tells
The graphics which were ?? popularity were also further improved?
Masuda Expression became possible to the textures of a player's fine expression or a material by having added the function required based on the new engine the "FOX engine" adopted as KONAMI, in order to express soccer. moreover -- " -- natural color clever" is also reproduced.

色味 seen with a photograph etc. has required compensation so that man may be legible, but in 今作, extracts 色味 carefully from the material itself, and is expressing the "natural color" of each material. Since the scenery of "real" tone can just be enjoyed, I think if it observes by all means and you see.


I heard that it increased sharply also about the number of "player ID" expressing ?? player's individuality.
Masuda Power is put also into the South American license from the previous work, and the league of Argentina and dust is newly recorded in "2014." In order to develop "winning eleven" from future to worldwide one, you also have to expand the width of player expression too.

Therefore, in 今作, not only a globally famous top player but "player ID" of the star athlete of each areas, such as South America and Asia, was carried, and it increased even in the number close to twice compared with the previous work.

?? -- although various new functions were added, what kind of point is the point for winning in a game in "2014"?
Masuda Since the choice of the first touch is increasing in 今作, judgment of the moment of receiving a ball can be said to be an important point.
Is he conscious only of the speed which goes to a front anyhow, and do you think that it cannot win only by pushing a dash button?
It thinks till the next play and judgment whether to lower back where it saves a ball is put is becoming important.

I have the consciousness of a first play highly and think that selecting the best choice can call it the shortcut to a victory.
As for the rest, it is important that he is also conscious of the lenience and severity of a play.
I think that the more stable strength will be attached by the body if offensive speedup is aimed at, or a ball takes in defense, どころ is defined and the change of lenience and severity can be performed smoothly, also utilizing the teamwork newly carried from 今作.

It was not dared to stand an image character but the Japanese all-star representative who expressed by graphics has decorated the goods package with ?? "2014." Would you teach about the intention of the neighborhood?

Masuda Since KONAMI is aiding the representative of Japan as an official sponsor from this year, manifestation of the feeling of aiding the representative of Japan also as "winning eleven" is one of the reasons which became this package.
It is because it thought that having adopted the visual image which made the Japanese all-star representative the model would like many people to feel new "winning eleven" while advertizing the delicate graphics too realized with a new engine.
Compared with overseas [ ?? ], Japan was delayed in sale for about two months.

the Internet top -- "ウイイレ 2014" -- therefore, it did not become sale on November 14 -- it is -- it delayed in order to put into a package Akira Kakiya 1 朗選手 which attracts attention by the representative of Japan -- various guesses are flying about with it being.
Can the truth of the hit be observed?
Masuda Although he wanted to say whether I was noticed well (smile), when the best timing with which you are provided about a release date was chosen, it became on November 14 associated with a word play also by chance.

Having become sale of delay for "PES2014" to about two of an overseas edition months, While the way of being received which obtains various opinions and is different from our intention after the release of an overseas edition is adopted while carrying a new engine and advancing work carefully also including a new trial, or the insufficient element has appeared, it is because it thought that he would like to improve as much as possible in the Japanese version to be released from now on.

I also hear that it was able to add brand-new [ called Kakiya who attracts attention also in the representative of Japan in the process going into a package ].
?? I see.
Good influence was born by the process in which it improves based on the opinion acquired after the market introduction of an overseas edition, in the unexpected form.

Masuda Yes.
Although it has a form which keeps you, Japanese users, waiting, since a Japanese version is releasable in the form where the newest improvement was accomplished, I hope to expect by all means.
?? -- I ask a message of you, the ウイイレ fans who were then waiting eagerly for the latest work finally.
Masuda Since "2014" which carries a new engine regards new surprise and how to enjoy oneself as it being a work which can be offered also to the direction which had enjoyed old series, it thinks if he enjoys himself by all means and you play.
Moreover, since it is making also about how which having played "ウイイレ" series until now twists being conscious of the game nature which enters easily, if how which having played until now twists also challenges by all means, it is glad.
* The whole sentence of an interview report will be published in the soccer game king January, 2014 issue (November 22 sale).
 

Rat Monkey

Registered User
Are you guys seriously falling for this "the patch will solve everything" shit AGAIN? How many years now have you fell for the same bullshit?

The clue is in the name, it's a PATCH. To do the things you all hope it will do they would have to rebuild the game from scratch. The game is fundamentally broken. If it was a race horse it would be shot. You dont put a band aid onto a fractured skull and expect it to heal.

When has Konami EVER patched a PES game to the level you are hoping it will? Where does your hope come from?

The patch will contain nothing more than cosmetic changes (that should have already been done before release day) wrapped up in plenty of placebo based PR language to make you think they have actually done something to justify the money you paid for their game.

Just like last year......and the year before......and the year before that..........etc.

Well in fairness, all the Xbox version needs is largely cosmetic changes. Its not broken. In fact its works brilliantly, although it has some very minor gameplay niggles but then again every football game always has. Online has some lag issues, but the vast majority of games work very well. The patch will certainly justify the money paid for it on the Xbox.

The PS3 obviously is something to be sceptical about in fixing in a patch due to how broken the gameplay is. But, it's impossible for any of us to say it needs to be rebuilt. Your analogy of putting a band aid on it doesn't fit. It suggests the poor code they've written will be left there with new code on top of it trying to compensate for it. The analogy doesn't make sense or fit in the context of software. In a patch, the poorly written code should be removed and replaced with the new code in the patch. The PS3 sounds like it has problems in processing what it needs in the RAM, hence the framerate and input lag issues. While this makes the gameplay broken, it doesn't mean the fix is to rebuild the game.
 

DIECI

Registered User
haha hopefully this patch that coincides with the Japan release will fix the broken game. Then I could go to Gamestop and buy a used copy for probably half the price of the new one.
 

bRzYtWaA

Registered User
since the frame rate slowdown issues are supposedly caused by the crowd animations, is it even possible for them to patch something like this? to me it wud seem that the crowd animations are a major part of the game and would need a lot of new coding ? but i'm no expert, so correct me if i'm wrong...and I do hope i'm wrong cuz the slowdowns in the last 16 are my main concern....

also, at first everyone was happy that konami werent releasing the game on ps4/xbox1, as it could concentrate on this generations consoles...but now i kinda wish that it would be released on next gen, as these consoles are having so much trouble running this game ... :erm:
 

Rat Monkey

Registered User
The Xbox can handle more high resolution textures than the PS3. Higher resolution would mean more detail, therefore, more data to process in order to render them on screen. It could mean simply that the PS3 can't handle the same amount of rendering data at the speed of the Xbox, hence the slowdown. If this is the case, I'm guessing it wouldn't take much coding to fix as just less rendering data, and/or less animations would need to be used to play at a smooth framerate with no slowdown. You'll end up with less detail and quality in the graphics and possibly less crowd animations, but it might be so insignificant that you may have to both machines side by side to notice the difference. Thats my opinion of it based on some limited knowledge, but it makes sense. I'm open to correction.
 

bRzYtWaA

Registered User
the slowdown is magnified when playing online, and I only play online...offline it's minimal, but i only play offline once in a while with my brother...right now though im playing 11-11 in training mode, testing it out with no crowd at all, and the game is smooth as cud be ...no slowdowns at all
 

pj_puttz

Registered User
Well in fairness, all the Xbox version needs is largely cosmetic changes. Its not broken. In fact its works brilliantly, although it has some very minor gameplay niggles but then again every football game always has. Online has some lag issues, but the vast majority of games work very well. The patch will certainly justify the money paid for it on the Xbox.

The PS3 obviously is something to be sceptical about in fixing in a patch due to how broken the gameplay is. But, it's impossible for any of us to say it needs to be rebuilt. Your analogy of putting a band aid on it doesn't fit. It suggests the poor code they've written will be left there with new code on top of it trying to compensate for it. The analogy doesn't make sense or fit in the context of software. In a patch, the poorly written code should be removed and replaced with the new code in the patch. The PS3 sounds like it has problems in processing what it needs in the RAM, hence the framerate and input lag issues. While this makes the gameplay broken, it doesn't mean the fix is to rebuild the game.

Your entire post is based on a misunderstanding of my position.

My analogy fits perfectly when you understand that I completely disagree with your assessment of the game not being broken and only having very minor gameplay niggles. I think you have grossly underplayed just how bad PES 14 is but then again that is only my opinion. If you're happy with the multitudes of bugs, glitches and downright broken gameplay that Konami have been unable or unwilling to fix since 2008 and that not only I but plenty of other contributors to this site have mentioned in numerous posts then that's fine but you cant say my analogy doesn't fit simply because it doesn't fit with YOUR assessment of the game.

I understand what a patch is and my point is that to patch everything that is wrong with PES, in my opinion, they would need to patch so much of the original code that it would be tantamount to programming the entire game from scratch.
You clearly think that a patch is enough to solve the "minor niggles" and that makes sense but I and many other people think that PES has a LOT more wrong with it than "minor niggles". Some almost imperceptible graphical issues aside, I doubt that the X-box version of PES is THAT much different from the PS3 version in that regard.

It is not "impossible" at all for any of us to say that PES needs to be rebuilt because that is exactly what hundreds if not thousands of PES die hards have been saying since 2008. A lot of people are sick of what Konami are doing with PES and feel that their efforts are pretty poor on this entire generation of tech. I accept that you probably disagree with that as you appear to enjoy PES but that doesnt mean you can write off everyone else's opinion. If you take a quick look around this forum you'll see people are abandoning PES in their droves. People, like me, who have played Konami football games since the ISS days. Clearly this is not simply down to "minor niggles" or "cosmetic" issues and clearly not all of those people are PS3 players.

The other thing that baffles me is this habit people have of saying that the PS3 or current tech "cant handle" PES. Have you ever played Skyrim? GTAV? Fallout 3 or New Vegas? Are you seriously trying to say that PES takes up more processing power than any of those games? I'm no programmer but you only have to look at the scale and quality of those titles to see that has to be utter bullshit. Even if I'm wrong about that the lag and graphical issues are the least of PES' problems anyway. It's simply a shoddy, half arsed attempt at a football game in every department.

Now that you understand my position maybe you'll understand why I used that analogy. Enjoy playing PES and in your case maybe the patch will solve those "minor niggles" you mention. I remain unconvinced that a mere patch will solve all of the issues I believe the game has.
 

Rat Monkey

Registered User
I didn't write off yours or anyone else's opinion about the game being broken on the PS3. I wrote off your analogy for a patch and what you base your opinion on it needing to be rebuilt to fix it, that's my opinion of your opinion on that. End of. I didn't write off your opinion about anything else. My opinion is based on the Xbox version, not the crock of shit that is the PS3 version. That was blatantly obvious. I haven't played the PS3 version myself, and have mentioned its gameplay is broken from what users are saying. So no, I never said the PS3 wasn't broken, in fact I said it was.

Your the one who has actually wrote off my whole opinion about the game itself, so I don't know what your actually getting upset about. You think the Xbox has the same problems as the PS3? Based on what? Have you played it? You think I'm making this up? Why? ALL the complaints of slowdown and input lag have been from PS3 players. THERE IS NO SLOWDOWN ON THE XBOX, FACT!!!!!!!!!! INPUT LAG IS RARE, HAPPENS SOMETIMES WITH SHOTS RUNNING ONTO REBOUNDS IN THE BOX. SOME ONLINE GAMES HAVE INPUT LAG, BUT THAT IS VERY RARE. Do you actually think I wouldn't notice the massive problems the PS3 has if they where on the Xbox? I'm sorry, but that's just a stupid comment.

The patch will leave me satisfied on the Xbox. I never clearly said the patch will fix the PS3, and I've misunderstood you?! I said I would be sceptical about it, I just said it would satisfy me on the Xbox because the Xbox has only minor niggles. I mean, look at the post of mine you've quoted, that couldn't be more clear.

I've been playing this from the ISS days on the the SNES myself. What does that prove? You know more about what you're talking about?

The graphics comment was pure speculation based on some minor evidence, maybe utter bullshit or maybe not.

I agree PES has been poor on the current generation. I never found it broken in previous years, it just needed to be rebuilt as the engine was so tired. With 2014, its fantastic. I'd challenge ANYONE on the Xbox to argue with me that the game is broken like the PS3.
 

fxa5209

Registered User
I am not optimistic based on previous experience with Konami previous releases. The game will still be bad even with the patch. There are many things to fix and I dont see Konami being able to fix it all.

Some of the most things which bugs me in the game:

- Online: cursor indicator full when you process x but nothing happens.
- Online: Game disconnects when looking for opponents and you either lose or win a game before even the match starts.
- Online and Offline: Slowness in penalty area.
- Online and Offline: No red bookings after foul when player is one on one with keeper.
- Online and Offline: cursor switching is problematic
- Online and Offline: Shooting is crap
- Plans screen is laggy and cant move players around like previous versions.
- PS3 crash and turn off after quitting the game.

Thats what i can recall for now, but it seems a lot of work needed and i am sure that Konami already shifted focus to next year release.

By the way Konami, I dont care about boots or faces, i just want the game play fixed. Not sure what Konami is thinking about releasing the new 11 vs 11 mode when the fundamentals of the game are broken.
 

pj_puttz

Registered User
I didn't write off yours or anyone else's opinion about the game being broken on the PS3. I wrote off your analogy for a patch and what you base your opinion on it needing to be rebuilt to fix it, that's my opinion of your opinion on that. End of. I didn't write off your opinion about anything else. My opinion is based on the Xbox version, not the crock of shit that is the PS3 version. That was blatantly obvious. I haven't played the PS3 version myself, and have mentioned its gameplay is broken from what users are saying. So no, I never said the PS3 wasn't broken, in fact I said it was.

Your the one who has actually wrote off my whole opinion about the game itself, so I don't know what your actually getting upset about. You think the Xbox has the same problems as the PS3? Based on what? Have you played it? You think I'm making this up? Why? ALL the complaints of slowdown and input lag have been from PS3 players. THERE IS NO SLOWDOWN ON THE XBOX, FACT!!!!!!!!!! INPUT LAG IS RARE, HAPPENS SOMETIMES WITH SHOTS RUNNING ONTO REBOUNDS IN THE BOX. SOME ONLINE GAMES HAVE INPUT LAG, BUT THAT IS VERY RARE. Do you actually think I wouldn't notice the massive problems the PS3 has if they where on the Xbox? I'm sorry, but that's just a stupid comment.

The patch will leave me satisfied on the Xbox. I never clearly said the patch will fix the PS3, and I've misunderstood you?! I said I would be sceptical about it, I just said it would satisfy me on the Xbox because the Xbox has only minor niggles. I mean, look at the post of mine you've quoted, that couldn't be more clear.

I've been playing this from the ISS days on the the SNES myself. What does that prove? You know more about what you're talking about?

The graphics comment was pure speculation based on some minor evidence, maybe utter bullshit or maybe not.

I agree PES has been poor on the current generation. I never found it broken in previous years, it just needed to be rebuilt as the engine was so tired. With 2014, its fantastic. I'd challenge ANYONE on the Xbox to argue with me that the game is broken like the PS3.

Christ! Chill out mate! I wasn't upset at all, I thought I wrote my post using calm and non-confrontational language to assure you of that but obviously you've misinterpreted it. Why does everyone automatically assume that everyone else is permanently raging on the internet??

Your misunderstanding was in you saying that my analogy didnt fit. All I was saying there was that it did fit because it was an analogy built around MY opinion, not yours. It doesn't fit YOUR opinion but why would I build an analogy around YOUR opinion of the game? That makes no sense.

You also seem to think the "broken" element of the game is all about input lag and slowdown but I clearly said in my post "I and many other people think that PES has a LOT more wrong with it than "minor niggles". Some almost imperceptible graphical issues aside, I doubt that the X-box version of PES is THAT much different from the PS3 version in that regard."
Surely you understand that straight out of the box PES14 is THE SAME GAME on PS3 or XBox? Sure there might be small differences in the performance but you dont really get many people on here complaining about slowdown or lag, what you do get a lot of is people compaining about fundamental elements of the game such as passing, shooting, through ball exploits, AI, lack of options etc. Considering its THE SAME GAME I'm pretty sure that these things also exist on the Xbox. Whether you notice them or not is irrelevant to me. I'm merely saying that I and a lot of other long term PES/ISS fans are sick of these recurring problems and have all but abandoned PES. I wasn't telling you I've played it for years to score points, I was explaining that the people getting fed up with PES are long term fans of the series. Which has to be a bad sign for Konami.

I tried to explain that I dont have a problem with you thinking the patch will be enough and that I'm glad you enjoy PES. My only "minor niggle" :tongue: with your post was that you seemed very dismissive of all the criticisms of the game and appear to try to blame all of PES' problems on the PS3 console. Which, in my opinon, is utter nonsense.

You like the new engine and are happy with PES14, that's great! I'm happy for you! I honestly do not have a problem with people enjoying PES but surely you must have noticed a downward trend in people's opinions of the game on this site? I mean most of the forums are filled with complaints and this is a FAN site! I dont want to burn you for enjoying the game, I wish I could still enjoy it, but I did think your view that the many issues people have with this game dont exist on the Xbox is simply not true. It's not all about slow down and lag. If those were the only problems with PES I would be a very happy PES player!

Read some of the rest of the forum and you'll find plenty of Xbox players who are pissed off with the game. You wont need to look far.
 

Rat Monkey

Registered User
Well yes, mostly everyone has complained about slowdown and input lag this year on PS3. It sticks out like a sore thumb. I never said anything about passing, etc. You have, so I'll mention those now in the context of what you said - as in the PS3 and Xbox must be the same. Which should be true, but if you have graphical issues and input lag, those will affect how responsively they work, therefore, respond differently on PS3 compared to Xbox. But I'll take your word for it, and that these must be the same on Xbox and PS3.

Passing works great. So easy, I'm afraid if this is a problem for people then they must be terrible. Shooting is largely very good but has a learning curve. I'm knocking them in largely at this stage, maybe people need to get better at it? It is difficult to score from outside the box but I have with knuckle shots. I have come across no through ball exploitation or even mention of it by people this year. Maybe it is on pass assist 3 or 4, certainly not on 1. Is it that people are just poor at defending and tactics this year? I certainly am not having problems. The AI is decent on my team. I'm not having much issues with them. The AI can be a bit easy to play against even on superstar, but do provide a reasonable challenge overall. So alot of what you say people think, in those parts in terms of the game being broken, I find nonsense. Just my opinion though.

I don't see many if any Xbox players complaining about the game being broken. I see a small number complaining about other things. Its mostly PS3 players complaining its broken in every thread, and some PC players.
 

pj_puttz

Registered User
I have come across no through ball exploitation or even mention of it by people this year.

I don't see many if any Xbox players complaining about the game being broken. I see a small number complaining about other things. Its mostly PS3 players complaining its broken in every thread, and some PC players.

Sorry mate, I dont want to argue with you about this but if you haven't seen people on these forums complain about the through ball exploit then you haven't been looking very hard. The same goes for only seeing "mostly" PS3 players complaining about the game being broken.

If I had the time (and was a bit of an arsehole) I'd trawl through these threads and give you plenty of examples but I dont and I'm not so that aint gonna happen. All I can say is I know for a fact I've seen plenty of both but as I'm too lazy to provide proof I realise that is open to argument.

What I have seen on this forum over the past couple of years is a steady decline in love for PES among the game's die hard fans, myself included. The last PES I bought was PES 12 and that was it for me. It was one insult too many from Konami. I rented 13 and 14 in the vain hope that they would get their act together but deep down I knew it wouldnt happen and I was right. The game is still a mess.

This is my opinion but I feel that a huge chunk of the PES community is feeling the same way at the moment based on what I've read on this forum and others. The fans are walking away from what, in their view, is a substandard and often unfinished product and the evidence is plastered all over this forum.

Sure there are still people like yourself who love the game and that's great but you appear to be in the minority these days and I really dont think the well documented problems PES has lie only with PS3 or PC users. Hardware issues are the least of PES' problems, the problems lie deep within Konami and their PES team and no mere patch can fix that.
 

doctordiavolo

Registered User
Sorry mate, I dont want to argue with you about this but if you haven't seen people on these forums complain about the through ball exploit then you haven't been looking very hard. The same goes for only seeing "mostly" PS3 players complaining about the game being broken.

If I had the time (and was a bit of an arsehole) I'd trawl through these threads and give you plenty of examples but I dont and I'm not so that aint gonna happen. All I can say is I know for a fact I've seen plenty of both but as I'm too lazy to provide proof I realise that is open to argument.

What I have seen on this forum over the past couple of years is a steady decline in love for PES among the game's die hard fans, myself included. The last PES I bought was PES 12 and that was it for me. It was one insult too many from Konami. I rented 13 and 14 in the vain hope that they would get their act together but deep down I knew it wouldnt happen and I was right. The game is still a mess.

This is my opinion but I feel that a huge chunk of the PES community is feeling the same way at the moment based on what I've read on this forum and others. The fans are walking away from what, in their view, is a substandard and often unfinished product and the evidence is plastered all over this forum.

Sure there are still people like yourself who love the game and that's great but you appear to be in the minority these days and I really dont think the well documented problems PES has lie only with PS3 or PC users. Hardware issues are the least of PES' problems, the problems lie deep within Konami and their PES team and no mere patch can fix that.

YES YES YES lots of pes /iss fans leaving this franchise because of CONAMI the gameplay response is pathetic and thats passing,shooting,sliding etc takes 1&1/2 second to respond if the basics are broke you cant play HOW CAN PASSING BE GOOD IF YOU PRESS X THHEN 2 SECONDS LATER IT PASSES (PS3) OR YOUR PLAYER FREEZES IN BOX WONT MOVE TOWARDS BALL OR YOU CANT CHANGE TO PLAYER YOU WANT


WHERE AGAIN DID THEY SAY ITS A GOOD FOOTBALL GAME!
2 months on KONAMI HAVENT ADMITTED ITS BROKE SO I ASSUME ITS THERE NEW VERSION IF THIS UPDATE DONT IMPROVE THE GAME(OFFLINE BUGS&RESPONSIVENESS POOR TOO) THEN BYE BYE PES ITS BEEN EMOTIONAL TY FOR SPOILING A GOOD GAME
 

doctordiavolo

Registered User
Well yes, mostly everyone has complained about slowdown and input lag this year on PS3. It sticks out like a sore thumb. I never said anything about passing, etc. You have, so I'll mention those now in the context of what you said - as in the PS3 and Xbox must be the same. Which should be true, but if you have graphical issues and input lag, those will affect how responsively they work, therefore, respond differently on PS3 compared to Xbox. But I'll take your word for it, and that these must be the same on Xbox and PS3.

Passing works great. So easy, I'm afraid if this is a problem for people then they must be terrible. Shooting is largely very good but has a learning curve. I'm knocking them in largely at this stage, maybe people need to get better at it? It is difficult to score from outside the box but I have with knuckle shots. I have come across no through ball exploitation or even mention of it by people this year. Maybe it is on pass assist 3 or 4, certainly not on 1. Is it that people are just poor at defending and tactics this year? I certainly am not having problems. The AI is decent on my team. I'm not having much issues with them. The AI can be a bit easy to play against even on superstar, but do provide a reasonable challenge overall. So alot of what you say people think, in those parts in terms of the game being broken, I find nonsense. Just my opinion though.

I don't see many if any Xbox players complaining about the game being broken. I see a small number complaining about other things. Its mostly PS3 players complaining its broken in every thread, and some PC players.

PS3 VERSION IS AN DISGRACE AND THEY KNOW IT 800faces getting added but gameplay response is a joke even offline transfers 2months late but ppl can build an option file kits strips in days hmmm adam bhatti & co dont admit its a problem but 1000s of users cant be wrong CONAMI SELL FAULTY PES.........FACT



PES2014 PS3 37pound dusty paperweight ATM if update no good PES 2014 trade and more cash for gt6
 
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