General - how to send long balls to strikers from the back

chaddyru · 17-11-2006, 22:15

Has anyone else experimented with using long balls from the back toward your strikers? You have to use the radar, but once you get used to it, it's a really fun method to add to your playing arsenal. One of your forwards should preferably be a large-type player, like Adriano, Luca Toni, or Henry. But, this isn't necessary.

Basically, I just move the ball around the back and I pay attention to the radar. Once you're good enough at it, you really just play normally, and you just notice that the longball is open...you don't really want to just pass the ball around the back all-day waiting for the longball...keep your play varied so it's not as predictable.

Then, when you see (via radar) that the players defending your forwards are sort of laying off of them, this is the time to send the long ball (you'll see approx. an inch or so between your striker and his defender). Also, if you use R2 (don't know xbox equivalent) it'll loft the ball more and it definitely helps.

This part is important. When your forward is receiving the ball, use R2 to help him move and meet the ball while it's in the air. Also, if you press R2 when chesting the ball, the player will control the ball better in whatever direction you chest the ball. If you press R1 while chesting, the player will allow the ball to bounce more aggresively.

Instead of chesting the ball down, the other option is to flick the ball to another player (usually the partner striker). This is good to do when the defenders commit to the ball while it's in the air, leaving the partner striker free. You can also just head the ball back into a midfielder.

This method takes practice, because many don't use the long air pass often, unless they are reversing field. The passing gauge will not need to go that far above halfway (most of the time, of course). But, if you practice for a little while, then it's definitely worth learning. It's especially good to use against human opponents. This is because if you pass the ball when your frontline players don't have a defender right on their back, you are giving yourself a high chance of completing a succesful air pass to the front. Given the aggressive nature of human opponents, their first reaction to the pass will be to scramble their defender toward the ball. This means that they make their defenders over-commit a lot, leaving a flick on to another player a great option. Also, practicing this method makes you more adept at watching the radar, which I think really increases the quality of a player.

Sorry for the length...feel free to throw questions at me.

**Rossy Boy** · 17-11-2006, 22:16

why have you posted this twice?

**Dragonfly** · 17-11-2006, 22:18

That is such an English tactic

Anyway, nice one for the help, but I like to keep the ball on the floor and pass my way to goal, rather than hoofing it.

chaddyru · 17-11-2006, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Rossy Boy

why have you posted this twice?

I didn't realize I was in online thread...I wanted to post it here...just an accident

chaddyru · 17-11-2006, 22:28

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Originally Posted by dragonfly

That is such an English tactic

Anyway, nice one for the help, but I like to keep the ball on the floor and pass my way to goal, rather than hoofing it.

I agree that it is such an English tactic.

Knowing how to move the ball on the floor is the method that's definitely more important to know about...through the air is just another method to play with every now again....and embarrass opponents!

fredimaster · 18-11-2006, 03:19

yeah its a good tactic to just pull out of the hat occassionally

w1nky · 18-11-2006, 14:43

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Originally Posted by dragonfly

That is such an English tactic

Anyway, nice one for the help, but I like to keep the ball on the floor and pass my way to goal, rather than hoofing it.

How can you say such a thing !! Didn't you ever see Wimbledon play in their crazy gang days !!!

I think it's a good tactic to use at the right time but I am a pass and move player where possible.

deanos63 · 18-11-2006, 20:20

i remember the days when David Seamen had the most assists for Arsenal and Ian Wright was out top goal scorer!

got us to the cup winners cup final..... TWICE!

too bad seamen was only good at giving the long balls rather then recieving them, DAMN you NYEEM!

fredimaster · 18-11-2006, 21:56

lol cup winners cup final (die nyeem)

**Chuck Morris** · 18-11-2006, 23:59

Change the thread title to 'How do you play like Everton in PES6?'

deanos63 · 19-11-2006, 14:30

or chelsea...

w1nky · 19-11-2006, 16:39

or Bolton ?

Spenceroos · 24-11-2006, 01:55

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Originally Posted by MatTheCat

Its a great tactic and one that provides for a bit more variation and realism in the gameplay. Also from receiving long balls and controlling them you are more likely to get spectacular goal scoring opportunities than you wou will via the normal PES route to goal which is short passes from back to front and then twenty dribbles inside 18 yard box.

Playing the passing game is nothing to be proud about in PES6 as it is the style which the game allows the player to play most easily.

So lets here it for the long balls!

I agree with the cat i'm all for mixing up the gameplay. Using R2 is the only option to hit players from distance, i'm frequently frustrated from hesitant players after being picked out with specie 50 yard balls, i.e letting it run for a throw, always reacting slower than the defence. I'm pissed off with two things.

1st - Distribution from the keeper is shit, soaking up pressure from an opposing team limiting them to a weak shot, spotting your attacker in space and the keeper lofts a non descript ball in the air, with the defence 9/10 challenging the originally unmarked man.

2nd - Not being able to spread the ball from one side to the other or for that matter into space in behind the defence on the angle for your attack to run onto. Even the great D Beckham isn't capable of his famous Hollywood passes.