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Old 23-10-2009, 08:19   #76
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Maybe you're the one that needs to wake up. Money makes the world go round baby. If you're still skeptical, read Ign's review of Pes 2008 for the ps3, which initially got 9.2 but they reduced it to 8.6 few months later cuz of all the slack they got. Any sane person who played the game knows that it deserves nothing higher than 6/10.

Eurogamer scored Pes 2008 8/10 (1 of the worst footy games ever made), Pes 2009 8/10, and Pes 2010 7/10 even after stating that it's a big improvement over 2009 . Someone with 1/2 a brain would work out that something is not right here.
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Old 23-10-2009, 08:53   #77
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A big leap in the right direction, if you ask me.Especially the players' likeness.Take Xavi, for instance.Input lag is an issue that has to be addressed, though.Another thing that I noticed is that your opponents running on the flanks could be very bull-headed no matter how hard you press - hellbent on delivering a perfect cross.A bit unreal but these are minor snitches on an otherwise great edition.Waiting for the full game and lots of kitservers!
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Old 03-11-2009, 13:36   #78
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:35   #79
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Ok, my turn. Graphically, it's brilliant. Really quite stunning. Getting to the stage where you don't know how much more realistic it can get. The presentation and structure of the game is great, the direction that ML is going is really exciting, and not far off being playable as a manager game on it's own. The fact that you can edit and customise almost everything has been a staple of OCD ridden PES lovers for years, and this continues nicely.

Anyway, enough praise. You'll notice I haven't actually mentioned anything to do with the gameplay yet, and with good reason I think. Although it's nice that they are trying to take steps forward from the slightly arcadey PES of recent years, the changes this year are abit too radical and nowhere near refined enough. In the past, I could play for hours, take big bites out of seasons in one sitting, but now that is not so. I've found myself just having to switch off after a couple of games in annoyance.

Responsiveness is an issue, particularly in terms of shooting. Lots of people have said this and I agree, it seems to be VERY hard to hit it first time and get a decent header on it. This is particularly annoying for someone who likes to get it out wide.

I could go on, but I can't be arsed. To sum up, most reviews from mags and websites have been very good, undeservedly so. For me it's definitely in the sort of 6 out of 10 category, i.e. good but with reasonably big flaws. Mainstream reviewers just don't have the bollocks to give it a bad (or even mediocre) review because they don't want to appear to be biased in a two horse race. Plus, think about it, these guys review all the games that come out, so how much time can they really devote to each one..?
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Old 01-12-2009, 14:47   #80
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yes i have WE10 demo with keepers who 'cant catch a headed ball to save their lives' problem

players who run with the ball, make a pass and stop dead on the spot.. as though their part in the game is now over. they carried the ball, made the pass, took out the picnic basket and camped out for the evening.

nobody else notice how the ai is reluctant to continue running AFTER you make a pass? (you shouldnt have to make a 1-2 play to keep them running to support an attack)...or how players never run on and into the ball if it breaks free right in front of them?

apart from the keepers, and passing, it is this lack of momentum and fluidity that make me feel like the series has not progressed since PS2... its like unless i control every aspect of my team they are inept. and given that you can only directly control 1 player at a time, this is a little suspect, and massively detracts from the notion of 'real football' to me.

you are right ...the controls are awful in 2010 and 2009 ..i am still playing 2008 on ps3 ...fifa has given players more control over the ball and the passes and the players ..it used to be better on konami ....but since 2009 ...the controls have become awful ...i thought they where going to fix it this year ...but for manual mode players ...pes 2009 , 2010 is not there game ...the cursor does not change unless u change it by pressing L1 and if u dont the player will act on his own - ai my ass man - in the older versions the cursor will change to the player u r passing to ...and carry on from there ...another thing ...players run in to each other ..let alone the referee....i hope there is an update coming soon ...and i hope they fix it , coz honestly ...i am too loyal to konami , i cant enjoy fifa ..altough i played with it for a while ....but konami is something else ...we just need our controls over the players back ....and the konami cup mode for multiplayers
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Old 01-12-2009, 14:53   #81
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Ok, my turn. Graphically, it's brilliant. Really quite stunning. Getting to the stage where you don't know how much more realistic it can get. The presentation and structure of the game is great, the direction that ML is going is really exciting, and not far off being playable as a manager game on it's own. The fact that you can edit and customise almost everything has been a staple of OCD ridden PES lovers for years, and this continues nicely.

Anyway, enough praise. You'll notice I haven't actually mentioned anything to do with the gameplay yet, and with good reason I think. Although it's nice that they are trying to take steps forward from the slightly arcadey PES of recent years, the changes this year are abit too radical and nowhere near refined enough. In the past, I could play for hours, take big bites out of seasons in one sitting, but now that is not so. I've found myself just having to switch off after a couple of games in annoyance.

Responsiveness is an issue, particularly in terms of shooting. Lots of people have said this and I agree, it seems to be VERY hard to hit it first time and get a decent header on it. This is particularly annoying for someone who likes to get it out wide.

I could go on, but I can't be arsed. To sum up, most reviews from mags and websites have been very good, undeservedly so. For me it's definitely in the sort of 6 out of 10 category, i.e. good but with reasonably big flaws. Mainstream reviewers just don't have the bollocks to give it a bad (or even mediocre) review because they don't want to appear to be biased in a two horse race. Plus, think about it, these guys review all the games that come out, so how much time can they really devote to each one..?

i totally agree , the game play is nothing like it used to be on ps2 , or even on 2008 ps3 ....we dont have control over players or the ball or the passing anymore
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:21   #82
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What made pes great "the gameplay" is terrible this year. So unresponsive, 2 much computer assistance, 2 much random out of your control passes and movements and by the time it takes you to shoot the ball has already reached the other half of the pitch. Not to mention terrible player selection options and no 2v2 custom cup.

Could be the worst pes ever.

On the plus side graphics are not bad.

Someone really needs to have a word with konami. They seemed to have lost the plot.
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Old 14-12-2009, 21:57   #83
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PES 10 imho is still a better game than FIFA 10. FIFA 10 is really nice and all but it doesn't excite me nor does it give me chills and goosebumps like PES 10 does esp. multiplayer or online mode.
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Old 16-12-2009, 20:30   #84
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bad fida

Fifa 10 is going to be the first Fifa game I've bought since I was a kid with a Megadrive.

That's some pretty bad form from Konami.[/QUOTE]
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Old 16-12-2009, 20:30   #85
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