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Old 17-05-2006, 14:38   #61
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Old 17-05-2006, 15:14   #62
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Cracky I used to think you weren't half bad... then you made that comment.

Del Piero and Totti together do not work they both play in the same hole, they get in each other's way and prevent each other from shining. As for Del Piero being most effective as a substitute I don't agree. As long as he doesn't get burnt out from playing every week as Capello has him do, he would be fine. There's no reason he can't start he can make just as much impact, see the Juventus vs. Fiorentina game where he netted the vital equaliser from a half chance, he was on from the beginning. Without that goal AC Milan could have caught up.
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Old 17-05-2006, 16:57   #63
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Del Piero and Totti together do not work they both play in the same hole, they get in each other's way and prevent each other from shining. As for Del Piero being most effective as a substitute I don't agree. As long as he doesn't get burnt out from playing every week as Capello has him do, he would be fine. There's no reason he can't start he can make just as much impact, see the Juventus vs. Fiorentina game where he netted the vital equaliser from a half chance, he was on from the beginning. Without that goal AC Milan could have caught up.
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I'll have to tredge through the Juventus thread and find which game it was when he impressed me so much. If I could then get highlights I could show people what I mean.
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If it interest anybody, maybe for your pes5, Italy Squad numbers:
1. Gianluigi Buffon
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6. Andrea Barzagli
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12.Angelo Peruzzi
13.Alessandro Nesta
14.Marco Amelia
15.Vincenzo Iaquinta
16.Mauro Camoranesi
17.Simone Barone
18.Filippo Inzaghi
19.Gianluca Zambrotta
20.Simone Perrotta
21.Andrea Pirlo
22.Massimo Oddo
23.Marco Materazzi

You can find all here when announced, only some have been so far.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FI...d_Cup_(squads)
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Old 17-05-2006, 21:57   #65
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I like Italy. I think that they have a pretty good team and they can make it at least to the quarters.
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Old 17-05-2006, 23:03   #66
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Del Piero and Totti together do not work they both play in the same hole, they get in each other's way and prevent each other from shining. As for Del Piero being most effective as a substitute I don't agree. As long as he doesn't get burnt out from playing every week as Capello has him do, he would be fine. There's no reason he can't start he can make just as much impact, see the Juventus vs. Fiorentina game where he netted the vital equaliser from a half chance, he was on from the beginning. Without that goal AC Milan could have caught up.
Well the fact is when I've seen him play he's been rather average, but maybe Iv'e just seen him on his bad days. But the fact that he still doesnt start reguarly for Juve, even with Ibrahimovic's pathetic form, says it all.

He is undoubtly a shadow of the player he was before his injuries. Which is unfortunate as he was rather good once.

Oh and he's never really performed at the big international tournaments either.
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Old 17-05-2006, 23:05   #67
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Well the fact is when I've seen him play he's been rather average, but maybe Iv'e just seen him on his bad days. But the fact that he still doesnt start reguarly for Juve, even with Ibrahimovic's pathetic form, says it all.

He is undoubtly a shadow of the player he was before his injuries. Which is unfortunate as he was rather good once.
Capello doesn't like Del Piero so that's partly to do with it. Basically it works like this: If I'm saying something good about Del Piero, either he actually did magnificently or the world is going to end straight after I finish my sentence. I truly believe I am his biggest ever critic...and he deserves it every single time.

And no, he's never performed for Italy at tournaments as you've just added. This is his last chance to do so I believe. Will he? Bloody hope so!
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http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/a...+will+struggle

What an utter cockmuncher. He's obviously jealous that we raped his country sideways with a rusty brush the last time we met. Fanny.
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What an utter cockmuncher. He's obviously jealous that we raped his country sideways with a rusty brush the last time we met. Fanny.
I agree....(BarnDoor, is that you?!)

Marco Tardelli has responded similarly to Beckenbauer's claims. Let them say what they want about the state of Italian football, I couldn't care less. The only stupid part was when people were calling for Lippi to step down a couple of days ago. He's got no reason to do that and I'm glad he's been given backing.
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I have quite a good feeling about Italy this summer. With their attack, Toni, Gilardino & Totti, they can destroy any team in the world, with a rock solid defence & a classy midfield Italy have what it takes to go all the way this summer & I throughly expect them to win the World Cup.
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I have quite a good feeling about Italy this summer. With their attack, Toni, Gilardino & Totti, they can destroy any team in the world, with a rock solid defence & a classy midfield Italy have what it takes to go all the way this summer & I throughly expect them to win the World Cup.
Rock solid defence? What rock solid defence?? Apart from Zambrotta, Nesta, Cannavaro and Buffon there isn't much in defence. The reserves are not up to an acceptable standard, they're simply the best of what's left. Totti is ridiculously inconsistent for the national side as is Del Boy. I'm expecting Toni to do well but Gilardino is hit-and-miss for me when he's not a lone striker.

Classy midfield? Pirlo gets too easily overrun and he's going to be starting so Gattuso is going to have to put twice as much work in. If Camoranesi is given the nod ahead of De Rossi as I now expect, we're going to have two plonkers in midfield instead of just Pirlo.

Confidence is nice but expecting us to win the World Cup is nothing more than a dream. Especially with Materazzi lurking in the background
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I agree....(BarnDoor, is that you?!)

Marco Tardelli has responded similarly to Beckenbauer's claims. Let them say what they want about the state of Italian football, I couldn't care less. The only stupid part was when people were calling for Lippi to step down a couple of days ago. He's got no reason to do that and I'm glad he's been given backing.
I thought he said Italy will struggle because of the Mogg/Juve scandal, it's a fair point by Der Kaiser.

Although, I'm getting really tired of Franz these days. Can't open a newspaper or watch a Worldcup related program on TV without him predicting the chances of Trinidad and Tobago. I really couldn't give a fuck, as his prediction skills are equal to to a cardboard.
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If it interest anybody, maybe for your pes5, Italy Squad numbers:
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I thought he said Italy will struggle because of the Mogg/Juve scandal, it's a fair point by Der Kaiser.

Although, I'm getting really tired of Franz these days. Can't open a newspaper or watch a Worldcup related program on TV without him predicting the chances of Trinidad and Tobago. I really couldn't give a fuck, as his prediction skills are equal to to a cardboard.
The dude knows probably as much about modern day football as Pele.
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Gianluca Zambrotta must undergo tests after he pulled up with a muscular problem during today’s Italy test.

“I hope it’s nothing serious,” said the Juventus full-back. “It was a normal move, I just stretched a little too far and felt the muscle pull.”

The defender was taking part in this morning’s match against San Gimignano when he limped off with the left thigh injury.

“It’s certainly a muscular problem, but not due to tiredness or my fitness levels. Quite simply, the muscle didn’t hold up.”

This has been a troubled season for Zambrotta, who has suffered a series of muscular injuries, and the Azzurri medical staff are on red alert just weeks ahead of the World Cup opener against Ghana on June 11.

The entire Italy squad will have 24 hours off to vote in local elections, but Zambrotta is taking no chances.

“I will stay at the training camp tomorrow for treatment. I want to participate in the tournament and therefore look after my body. I don’t feel like travelling to much at the moment.”

Today’s friendly tests also saw Francesco Totti in fine form with one of his trademark chipped goals.

“I called my book ‘Now I’ll chip the ‘keeper’, so I had to try it,” joked the Roma captain. “This rest day comes at just the right time, as it has been an intensive week. We’ll be charged up for the two friendlies against Switzerland and Ukraine.”
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