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Old 20-11-2008, 14:17   #1
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Argentina

Without doubt, football is by far the most popular sport in Argentina and has been for a long time before and after Maradona.

The Argentina national football team is the national football team of Argentina and is controlled by the Asociación del Fútbol Argentino (AFA). Argentina has the world record for most international titles won by any national team.

Argentina is one of the most successful national football teams in the world, and is currently seventh in the FIFA world rankings. The team has twice won the FIFA World Cup, in 1978 and 1986. Argentina has won the Copa América 14 times, a record shared with Uruguay, won the Confederations Cup in 1992 and the Olympic Football Tournament in 2004 and 2008.

Argentina and France are the only national teams which have won the three most important men's titles organized by FIFA: the World Cup, the Confederations Cup, and the Olympic tournament. They have both also won their respective continental championship (Copa América for Argentina, and UEFA European Football Championship for France).. However, it must be added that Argentina has won the Youth World Cup a record 6 times while France has never won that trophy, making Argentina the only country to have won all tournaments organized by FIFA to which it is eligible.

Currently the national coach is one who is considered by many as the greatest ever player and has won the player of the century award.

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I feel Argentina have a great future with lots of bright,young footballing talents coming through like:

Higuain,Gago,Banega,Messi,Lave zzi,Tevez........etc


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Without doubt, football is by far the most popular sport in Argentina and has been for a long time before and after Maradona.

The Argentina national football team is the national football team of Argentina and is controlled by the Asociación del Fútbol Argentino (AFA). Argentina has the world record for most international titles won by any national team.

Argentina is one of the most successful national football teams in the world, and is currently seventh in the FIFA world rankings. The team has twice won the FIFA World Cup, in 1978 and 1986. Argentina has won the Copa América 14 times, a record shared with Uruguay, won the Confederations Cup in 1992 and the Olympic Football Tournament in 2004 and 2008.

Argentina and France are the only national teams which have won the three most important men's titles organized by FIFA: the World Cup, the Confederations Cup, and the Olympic tournament. They have both also won their respective continental championship (Copa América for Argentina, and UEFA European Football Championship for France).. However, it must be added that Argentina has won the Youth World Cup a record 6 times while France has never won that trophy, making Argentina the only country to have won all tournaments organized by FIFA to which it is eligible.

Currently the national coach is one who is considered by many as the greatest ever player and has won the player of the century award.

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I feel Argentina have a great future with lots of bright,young footballing talents coming through like:

Higuain,Gago,Banega,Messi,Lave ssi,Tevez........etc
That is the wrong shirt, that is an old one
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That is the wrong shirt, that is an old one
Oh!Really i am sorry,i remebered them wearing it in WC2006,searched for its pic and put it up here,can anyone help me find a current one?
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I love the Argentina tops. I've got the new home shirt.

I'm looking forward to the World Cup even more, now Maradona is boss. I thought you were favourites to win it before he took the job, but now I'm convinced you will win it. It just has to be that Maradona wins the World Cup once again.
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I love the Argentina tops. I've got the new home shirt.

I'm looking forward to the World Cup even more, now Maradona is boss. I thought you were favourites to win it before he took the job, but now I'm convinced you will win it. It just has to be that Maradona wins the World Cup once again.
Bit premature mate. Everyone was tipping them in the last World Cup, although by 2010, their squad should look very tasty. Attacking wise at least.
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Bit premature mate. Everyone was tipping them in the last World Cup, although by 2010, their squad should look very tasty. Attacking wise at least.
Yep.Defensively they have Cambiasso,Masherano,Milito,Hei nze,Samuel...........


Solid enough to get a world cup seeing their attacking choice of

Higuain,Gago,Banega,Messi,Lave zzi,Maxi Rodriquez,Tevez,Veron,Riquelme ,Guitirez and loads more class players.

Brazil pulled it in 2002 with Cafu and Roberto Carlos in defence.

I think we should get some Argentinian Kids as it seems we have none,Banega would fit the bill properly.

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Without doubt, football is by far the most popular sport in Argentina and has been for a long time before and after Maradona.

The Argentina national football team is the national football team of Argentina and is controlled by the Asociación del Fútbol Argentino (AFA). Argentina has the world record for most international titles won by any national team.

Argentina is one of the most successful national football teams in the world, and is currently seventh in the FIFA world rankings. The team has twice won the FIFA World Cup, in 1978 and 1986. Argentina has won the Copa América 14 times, a record shared with Uruguay, won the Confederations Cup in 1992 and the Olympic Football Tournament in 2004 and 2008.

Argentina and France are the only national teams which have won the three most important men's titles organized by FIFA: the World Cup, the Confederations Cup, and the Olympic tournament. They have both also won their respective continental championship (Copa América for Argentina, and UEFA European Football Championship for France).. However, it must be added that Argentina has won the Youth World Cup a record 6 times while France has never won that trophy, making Argentina the only country to have won all tournaments organized by FIFA to which it is eligible.

Currently the national coach is one who is considered by many as the greatest ever player and has won the player of the century award.

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I feel Argentina have a great future with lots of bright,young footballing talents coming through like:

Higuain,Gago,Banega,Messi,Lave zzi,Tevez........etc
I feel that Argentina haves some great individuals that play very well for their respective Clubs.. But I don't see how Argentina haves a great future. Because yeah, they do have some great talent, but as a TEAM they are not very good.

They have no Integrity.

Higuain, Gago, Banega, Messi, Lavezzi, Tevez, Mascherano -- Are they playing for the TEAM, or for themselves??

In their last match against France they started chanting:

"Have to give hope, have to give hope, Messi is already here, don't call anyone else"

As any Argentina Fan will know, this was an obvious and direct shot at Riquelme. Cowardly aimed. Riquelme's own team-mates took a shot at him when he was down, and forced him into International Retirement.

As a result Riquelme blamed Maradona for his exit, but BOTH Maradona and Riquelme know full well the Reasons behind his exit -- The dressing room was divided, This Argentina haves no Integrity, everyone plays for their own glory.

Riquelme decided to further damage his reputation, instead of expressing the real reason for his departure. This way Riquelme or Maradona take the blame, but not the dressing room.

The damage is done and it's irreversible.. Riquelme will not play for Argentina again. But in the process the "dressing room" showed their real colors, the real conflict within the team.

It was very unfortunate that they allowed One Individual to take all the blame for their disappointments on so many occasions.. BUT it is even more unfortunate that they capitalize on that blame. They turned against him, they turned him into a "scapegoat" to justify their consistent shortcomings.

Was there any necessity at all to have such a coward shot at Riquelme? What are they trying to prove?

It is an embarrassment to know that the dressing room forced one of their own out. And in such a public and coward manner. They didn't even took responsibility for it, Maradona did.

Argentina haves the potential to be a great team, but that's about it, they will never play to their potential. Too much Overrated EGO in that dressing room.

They disposed of Juan Roman Riquelme today, but "New Conflicts" will soon find their way into Maradona's dressing room.
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Well I'm sorry to you, but Riquelme is no saint. If getting rid of him brings the Argentine dressing room together, than that is the right thing to do. Villarreal is good example of this and even Spain with Raul.

If someone is bringing the dressing room down, no matter how good he is, he must leave.
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Well I'm sorry to you, but Riquelme is no saint. If getting rid of him brings the Argentine dressing room together, than that is the right thing to do. Villarreal is good example of this and even Spain with Raul.

If someone is bringing the dressing room down, no matter how good he is, he must leave.
That's exactly my point, it won't bring them together.. Now "New Conflicts" will surface, that's how this works.

Sure, maybe they win 5 or 6 games on the string.. but eventually, they will fall to their usual habit. Without Integrity there is no stability within a Team, there is no consistency.

Riquelme wasn't bringing the dressing room down, that was evident on the pitch, when it mattered. Riquelme was just an excuse, a justification.

The dressing room was just frustrated with the results, and they vented their frustration on an easy target who's been taken most of the blame, undeservedly, for years -- Riquelme.

Who will be the next to take the blame??

They where happy with the fact that Riquelme took most if not all of the blame for their disappointment in the 2006 World Cup and Copa America.

And to add insult to injury, they capitalized on that for their own personal gain.

This is why the Argentina National Team is such a disappointment. Because they play for themselves, not for the shirt.

They where Not good enough to work through their differences with Riquelme -FOR- the benefit of the TEAM.

On the other hand, Argentina has been very successful in the "Youth World Cup" or "FIFA U-20 World Cup" because those teams still have talented individuals with some decency and integrity intact. Those U-20 teams are group of players that know each other and know how to take their differences aside and work as a team.

The U-20 Argentina is probably a better TEAM than Senior Argentina. Even without established "superstars".

The Villarreal Case was very different to the conflict within the Argentina dressing room. Villarreal players showed a lot more decency as team-mates.

As for Spain, Spanish players never had such a coward and public shot at Raul. They have Integrity and codes of their own, plus most of them play the same brand of Football in the Spanish La Liga.

They won the EURO without Raul and Joaquin. But not one of them started chanting against Raul or Joaquin. Because they have decency and integrity.

And when they loose, they all take the blame.. the blame isn't reserved for Xavi or Raul or Torres, they don't allow that, everyone within the group shares the blame.

Unlike Argentina.

We'll see how it all works out for Argentina soon enough.
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Your love for Riquelme's skills, has truly blinded your senses.

For all you know, they tried to ask that diva to come off it, but he told them to suck his dick.

Riquelme's over-sized ego led to his own downfall.

He's fucking with Messi must have also tipped the scales. No one fucks with Lionel and gets away with it.

Now the real Maestro will inherit the 10.
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Your love for Riquelme's skills, has truly blinded your senses.

For all you know, they tried to ask that diva to come off it, but he told them to suck his dick.

Riquelme's over-sized ego led to his own downfall.

He's fucking with Messi must have also tipped the scales. No one fucks with Lionel and gets away with it.

Now the real Maestro will inherit the 10.
It was the players no one else.. and I'm pretty sure I'm not blinded by anything.

Argentina is a team full of spoiled EGOS. And I'm not particularly fond of Riquelme as a person, but fact remains that Riquelme has never taken a PUBLIC shot at Leo Messi or any other of his national team-mates.

And I don't mean to offend you or anything.. but really, do you actually think Riquelme would do that?? It's a ridiculous suggestion IMO.

It makes no sense whatsoever to me.. Even more so considering that Leo Messi clearly doesn't and has never gotten along with him. And also considering that the Argentine Players chanted:

"We already have Messi, we are all here, don't call anyone else!!!".

To whom do you think that was aimed ??

Sebastian Veron was the only player who showed a little bit of decency and honesty when he said that the "Dressing room forced Roman out".

That's exactly what happened.

Maradona knows that, Riquelme obviously knows that, and chances are that most people in Argentina know that. But it is much more convenient for Argentina this way.

Riquelme ends up looking like the "conflictive" player, Maradona ends up looking cool.. and the dressing room takes no responsibility for anything.

Plus the press goes crazy with it, making their own twist to everything, probably going back to the conflict between Riquelme and Pellegrini. It's all good for the press.

But problems like this do not just fade away like that, it is a habit, and new conflicts will find their way into this team. Having disposed of Riquelme, new conflicts will find their way into Maradona's dressing room.

Nobody fucks with Leo Messi?? He is untouchable? That is a HUGE PROBLEM. There you have the next big conflict within the Argentina Dressing Room.

Be it Messi's individualism, or Maradona's lack of experience as a coach. Or that Riquelme deserted them and they didn't find a proper replacement. Someone will take the blame for the Team's shortcomings.

Argentina haves no TEAM, a bunch of players playing for themselves and not for the shirt. Who are not even capable of working through some differences for the Team's benefit.

It is to be expected considering how players change teams nowadays. There's no passion for the shirt anymore, now it's about the money, about how much "stock" a player holds.

The problem with Argentina is that, when they loose it is Riquelme's fault. Or like in World Cup 2002, it was all Veron's fault. They always find themselves a "scapegoat". Someone to take the blame for the rest of the Team.

That's not something a Team with Integrity would do.

How many times didn't Zidane put himself ahead of France?? How many times did he decided to do something stupid that would ultimately cost the team big time? More than Once to say the least.

But not once did anyone within the French Team publicly had a go at Zinedine Zidane.

Another example would be Portugal, when they failed as favorites, the team shared responsibility for the disappointment. It wasn't Luis Figo's fault because "Luis Figo disappeared when it mattered the most".

Bottom Line is that Argentina can have the best individuals in the world, but they will not win anything.. for obvious reasons.

I'm already thinking about WHO will take the blame for Argentina's "failure" in World Cup 2010.

Hopefully they'll show some great displays in the process.. which is always good for the fans. But no Titles.
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There's something about Riquelme's attitude that the squad didn't like, and i'll bet the young ones didn't make a move without Zanetti and the rest of the elders' consent. I'd also wager that they approached Roman and tried to sort out whatever problem they had with him, but he, clearly, didn't respond well, so they took drastic measures, albeit dishonorable.

My gues is that Maradona tried to convince Riquelme to give Messi the 10, but Roman refused, so the fat cunt had his players do the dirty work.
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