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Old 26-05-2016, 21:28   #601
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Just got knocked out of the champions league in the knockout round for the third season in a row. Can't help but feel a complete sense of rip off.

Computer scores in extra time and goes through on away goal rule.

My defenders all become totally useless and unresponsive as computer just glides through them, gets a one on one with my goalie and scores with ease.
I know that feeling. In pes 2016 I started ml couple of times and always ended up switching this game of. AI is meant to fuck you. No matter what you do if you dont play like crazy you will lose more competitive games. They score when they want and you cant do anything, doesnt matter what difficulty you play on. I started enjoying the game when I used yaku gameplay. Those who are using Pes Galaxy can use it or you can just download it. This game is broken so the community has to work on it. Anyway since then I lost some games, AI itself isnt more dangerous in attack, you just dont have this feeling of being cheated that takes away all the joy from playing. Dont get me wrong there still is alot of bullshit you have to put up with, like referees for example.
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Old 26-05-2016, 21:50   #602
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I know that feeling. In pes 2016 I started ml couple of times and always ended up switching this game of. AI is meant to fuck you. No matter what you do if you dont play like crazy you will lose more competitive games. They score when they want and you cant do anything, doesnt matter what difficulty you play on. I started enjoying the game when I used yaku gameplay. Those who are using Pes Galaxy can use it or you can just download it. This game is broken so the community has to work on it. Anyway since then I lost some games, AI itself isnt more dangerous in attack, you just dont have this feeling of being cheated that takes away all the joy from playing. Dont get me wrong there still is alot of bullshit you have to put up with, like referees for example.
I used to have the same problem guys and in superstar difficulty it was so hard to get my defense playing properly that I was getting crazy. I started playing with 4 CBs in a 4-2-3-1 tactic, with 2 DMF's.

I even put "few" players in attack, so that I have more players staying in defense. It worked for now, but in all seriousness you need a striker that you feel comfortable with: fast, with good ball control, because you will depend on him a lot.

Although it's hard to defend I think it is easy to attack as well, no matter the difficulty. Long passes for example are such an easy way to score that I sometimes feel I'm cheating by using that. Also, with the opponents who play short pass, they make so many silly mistakes you can easily intercept the ball, for example, during goal kicks or long range free kicks. Finally other stupid easy way to score is on the kickoff. The opponent players seem paralyzed during kick-offs.

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Old 27-05-2016, 01:55   #603
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End of season 6. Here's the team so far. Same setup as before, most important players outside the spoilers, the rest inside. Previous post here, end of season 3. This said, improvements happened over the course of 3 seasons.



What a development this guy is having. Incredible reflexes, positioning. Can't complain.



Took him just one year to get a place in the starting lineup. Stats speak for themselves, that Jump is obscene.



Alessandro Nesta would be proud. Best defender I've ever used in any football game. It almost feels magnetic, the ball just teleports from the opposition to his feet.



Absurd. Best RB in the game by a huge margin. Even if you find another player that compares in Speed or Stamina or whatever, no other is this complete. Beyond my expectations.
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The captain, as usual, the engine that powers the entire team. That dribbling is creepily low, not that I make use of it that often. Speed is perfect for what I ask from him.



Hasn't improved that much. Speed is dropping already, but technical abilities are still improving. Currently being trained on Passing. Alongside Neves my most influential player.
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What a beast. Even better than Coutinho. Best striker I've ever used. If only he had a more powerful shot...
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And the game plan

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Old 27-05-2016, 08:58   #604
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@rebelinho - I presume you altered Andre Silva's stats before you began?
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Old 27-05-2016, 10:31   #605
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What tactics do you use and who are your defenders? I have a kinda "weak" team and I just got easily to the final of UCL, after beating PSV in the semis (Juve on my way).
I use a diamond formation, 4 defenders and a defensive midfielder. I did start with a more defensive formation but seemed to let in as many goals as my current formation.

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Walker...Kompany...Varane...Al aba
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De Bruyne........................ ....Bale
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............Ronaldo.......Neym ar

Defensively I am pretty solid but for some strange reason the computer seems to always find the goal/s it needs in the champions league, last season Real Madrid needed 2 late goals to go through and they got them.

This season I was leading Benfica 2-1 and they scored in the 90th minute in the second leg to go through on away goals.

I did pretty well in the group stage, just a shame it all went to crap in the first knockout stage.

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Old 27-05-2016, 10:53   #606
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Some fantastic player development there! Enjoyed looking at that I have to say.

Didn’t know Cancelo could develop so highly, I’ve owned him a few times but thought he was a mid 80s OR kind of player, 91 OR is awesome…Nesta would indeed be proud.

Neves is looking decent, although Konami have really under valued his stats. Hopefully in the next game he’ll be taken more seriously!?

I think you’ve won the Quaresma regen battle 93 OR at 19yrs old is mind-blowing…your first 100+ OR player right there my friend.

I see you’ve got Danny as a utility player, mine however is not..He’s close to your Quaresma in terms of development and numbers are starting to turn red..!!

Looks like you’ve sold/lost a lot of your GMs, I cannot part with mine just yet
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Old 27-05-2016, 11:25   #607
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@rebelinho - I presume you altered Andre Silva's stats before you began?
I didn't remember so had to check. Apparently yes but not by much. 5 Points in Attacking Prowess, 3 in Dribbling, decreased Ball control by 2, 3 up in Finishing and Jump and decreased Stamina by 3. Answering you underlying question, he surely won't be much different from this in your game if you decide to get him early.

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Looks like you’ve sold/lost a lot of your GMs, I cannot part with mine just yet
I still have Djené, Alex Telles, Coade, Matic, Fábregas and Biabiany, but yeah, I'm not as focused on that as during the previous seasons.
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Old 27-05-2016, 11:36   #608
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His default rating is 71 - that's one hell of an increase you've got!
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His default rating is 71 - that's one hell of an increase you've got!
And he hardly played in the first 2 seasons. After the edits his rating went to 72 if I'm not mistaken.

In the last 3 seasons he played 115 games, scoring 197 goals and assisting 30.
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In the last 3 seasons he played 115 games, scoring 197 goals and assisting 30.
Is there some way to view this in game, or have you just been keeping a record, like the ML nerd you are?
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Is there some way to view this in game, or have you just been keeping a record, like the ML nerd you are?
You already know the answer to that. I just like numbers in excel cells.
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You already know the answer to that. I just like numbers in excel cells.
I bet you host fake press conferences and interviews too, you big nerd.
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I bet you host fake press conferences and interviews too, you big nerd.
No no, I'm a bigger nerd for spreadsheets than PES. I just like organized stuff, order, not chaos. But if I played FM sure as hell I'd do all that stuff.

All my uni related files are organized, and it helps when looking out for something specific. While I'm not necessarily a person that can't withstand messy things, I prefer to have them arranged properly.

This said, here it is. http://i.imgur.com/28TWx2g.jpg

I'm very much inclined to get rid of that Passes/Dribbles part, useless stuff (because the rest is soooooo useful).

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Edit: new excel http://i.imgur.com/GFEsm5j.jpg Helton is missing but I'm not in the mood now.
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Old 27-05-2016, 15:27   #614
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I use a diamond formation, 4 defenders and a defensive midfielder. I did start with a more defensive formation but seemed to let in as many goals as my current formation.

.......................Neuer
Walker...Kompany...Varane...Al aba
.......................Pogba
De Bruyne........................ ....Bale
.......................Messi
............Ronaldo.......Neym ar

Defensively I am pretty solid but for some strange reason the computer seems to always find the goal/s it needs in the champions league, last season Real Madrid needed 2 late goals to go through and they got them.

This season I was leading Benfica 2-1 and they scored in the 90th minute in the second leg to go through on away goals.

I did pretty well in the group stage, just a shame it all went to crap in the first knockout stage.

Try a more defensive tactic, like a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-2-2-2, with two ball winning DMFs. I have some medium defense and I managed to win the UCL 2-0 to Juventus :p

Here is my captain Djourou picking up the cup

I found the Champions easier than the portuguese cup and league. xD

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PES 2016 ML matches against rivals must be one of the least enjoyable experiences in the whole of gaming. It's nigh on impossible to come away from one without an injury.

In the match I've just played, I lost 4-1, my first defeat of the season. 3 of the goals were low shots under the keeper (2 of which involved their midget striker out-muscling Boateng), and one was from a dubious free kick (do CPU players EVER miss a free kick from just outside the box???). My players played like they had been on the piss the night before, their players played like they were on performance enhancing drugs. And of course, my main LB comes away with a 13 week injury.
Who the fuck at Konami thought any of this rival match shit was acceptable?

EDIT: Just had another rivals match:

Me - 16 shots, 8 on target, 3 goals
Them - 4 shots, 4 on target, 4 goals
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