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Old 06-12-2016, 18:49   #736
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Either way, when I finish my third season I'm gonna do a comparison to see how they have developed. Maybe that 46% boost over the course of a season will compensate for the fewer games played?
Maybe, 46% is a huge boost!

I must say that in my last two seasons I also had 2 Grand Master Center Back who boosted him, but that should be a 15-20% boost maximum, I donít remember.

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@ohen - how far was Arthur above his expected development curve?


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Chambers curve: Not bad, but not as impressive as Arthur. It is important to notice that this development curve begins in 2018, and he flourished during 2016-17 season (+7). The same for Arthur, but Arthur lives in a constant flourish
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:04   #737
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Yeah, mine hasn't flourished yet. I will post likely finish my third season by the weekend, I'll post some comparisons then.
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:08   #738
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Here is some of the players in my squad in my third season as manager of Flamengo.

















I've already won the Brazilian Cup (twice), Brazilian League (one time), Libertadores (one time) and Recopa Sudamericana (one time). I'll try to win the Libertadores again in order to win the Club World Cup. After that, I'll move on to some team on Europe.
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Old 08-12-2016, 00:36   #739
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Here is some of the players in my squad in my third season as manager of Flamengo.

I've already won the Brazilian Cup (twice), Brazilian League (one time), Libertadores (one time) and Recopa Sudamericana (one time). I'll try to win the Libertadores again in order to win the Club World Cup. After that, I'll move on to some team on Europe.
Glad to see that there are more people playing Pes 2016, I thought everybody was on Pes 2017.

It seems that you only play with Brazilian or South American players, don’t you?

That Mamute should be a beast, 99 balance in only three seasons!
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Old 08-12-2016, 01:32   #740
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Glad to see that there are more people playing Pes 2016, I thought everybody was on Pes 2017.

It seems that you only play with Brazilian or South American players, donít you?

That Mamute should be a beast, 99 balance in only three seasons!
I started some careers in Europe, but I've never played more than two seasons. However, I started one as Leeds United recently and I'm planning to be with this team on the long run.

Mamute is one of the best players you can buy in the early seasons, he gets better easily. He even got the Best Player in South America prize in my second season.
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:15   #741
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:37   #742
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How many seasons have you played with him? Your ōdegaard also seems to be a beast, his overall is as high as Neymar's.
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Old 08-12-2016, 21:31   #743
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It was 5/6 seasons, can't remember exactly how many, but I have stopped now (and no longer own the game). Odegaard was still improving btw, could've easily been 100+ in a couple more seasons.
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96 overall in 5/6 seasons when my Odeegard was 91 in 6 seasons. I donīt know what I’m doing wrong but my players don’t reach the same levels as yours. I guess that’s because I didn’t have any Grand Masters until last season.

Anyway, I have 2 basic questions about the period with the red “flourishing” arrow:

1. Does the player performance affects in his progression? I mean if he has an 8 scoring in a match does he progress faster than if he has a 5?
Now I’m obsessed with scoring goals during the flourish period but I’m not sure if it changes anything. For example in Pes 2015 I think he should have a 6,5 to flourish.

2. Shall he play every minute in every match? I usually substitute him in the second half after scoring 1 or 2 goals if there is another match in 2-3 days but maybe it’s a mistake.
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Anyway, I have 2 basic questions about the period with the red ďflourishingĒ arrow:

1. Does the player performance affects in his progression? I mean if he has an 8 scoring in a match does he progress faster than if he has a 5?
Now Iím obsessed with scoring goals during the flourish period but Iím not sure if it changes anything. For example in Pes 2015 I think he should have a 6,5 to flourish.

2. Shall he play every minute in every match? I usually substitute him in the second half after scoring 1 or 2 goals if there is another match in 2-3 days but maybe itís a mistake.
1. Yes, definitely. If you have a 6.0 or lower expect just a few stats to increase, maybe even as low as just two. Eventually there will be a day when 7 or 8 increase, but it's rare. For performances over 7.5 expect a steady stream of at least 6 stats increasing at the same time.

2. Not relevant, just the final performance score.

I've finished my third season today, I was already in league game number 34 as of my previous post so it was much quicker than I expected. Tomorrow I'll post some pics.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:38   #746
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Some interesting things here. Overall improvement was much bigger in ohen's Chambers. Up until Defensive Prowess things are pretty much even, 5 vs 4 of just slight changes. But then...

Mine wins clearly when it comes to Speed (normal, given I train him for that), but then loses in both Defence and Physical by an even bigger margin. I don't know if this comes from a flourish not yet had, but the difference is obvious.
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Old 09-12-2016, 16:23   #747
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Some interesting things here. Overall improvement was much bigger in ohen's Chambers. Up until Defensive Prowess things are pretty much even, 5 vs 4 of just slight changes. But then...

Mine wins clearly when it comes to Speed (normal, given I train him for that), but then loses in both Defence and Physical by an even bigger margin. I don't know if this comes from a flourish not yet had, but the difference is obvious.
Interesting comparison. My Chambers flourished during the first season so I wonder what the gap would be if your Chambers had flourished. Even though 20 points is a considerable gap and I don’t think it would be totally reduced.

It's important to notice that my Chambers played a lot during the first 3 seasons (111 matches). How about yours?

You also said that you used him as RB when he is CB. Do you think that the player progression is reduced if he doesn’t play in his main position?
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96 overall in 5/6 seasons when my Odeegard was 91 in 6 seasons. I donīt know what Iím doing wrong but my players donít reach the same levels as yours. I guess thatís because I didnít have any Grand Masters until last season.
Yeah, I had a number of maestros, GMs and legends etc which improved development significantly. I actually signed a few old players (like Rooney and Lewandowski) with the sole purpose of increasing player development.
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It's important to notice that my Chambers played a lot during the first 3 seasons (111 matches). How about yours?
Less than half that, a mere 54 games in three seasons.

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I don't think so, his overall even increases by three when I play him there.
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Old 14-12-2016, 23:37   #750
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Looking for new challenges I abandoned my Birmingham City ML (Odegaard I’m gonna miss you!) and just started a new ML with Liverpool.

Although I always try to keep most of original team players during 1st ML season, I signed up 6 players during the transfer window

CB Antonio Rudiger
RB Joao Cancelo
CMF Olivier Ntcham
CMF Bamidele Alli
AMF Juan Fernando Quintero
LWF Viktor Fischer
RWF Domenico Berardi

This is my roster.



I also bought some Maestros and Grand Maestros in order to improve players development. Some interesting things that I’ve noticed are:

- Your 1st Maestro gives +10% boost. 2nd Maestro only gives an extra +3%. (As you know Maestro boost same main position players)

- A Grand maestro gives +20% boost to same MAIN position players and +10% to same position players. If you add a Maestro, then you’ll have an extra +3%.

In conclusion, It isn’t worth it to buy more than 1 Maestro for same main position because only gives you a +3% extra boost.

((I’m referring to Level 1 team roles))

Finally, I'm playing with this formation, kind of guardiola style (Ntcham and Sturridge are injured)

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