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Old 23-06-2009, 19:50   #1
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Ideas Compilation Post.

Game play:

Speed is too fast. Speed is too much of a factor on the game. 360 degree movements? 16 – way movement. Better passing. Shooting meter fills up too quickly. Return of home and away in exhibition matches. Faster reaction time when loosing the ball to an opponent. Goalkeepers should distribute the ball faster. Better free kicks. Better ball physics. 3 free kick takers lining up. Head Injuries. Variation in injuries. Stop automatic sliding. More movement of the ball. Manual passing like in FIFA09. Better finesse shooting button. Simulate injuries. More variation in computer selected teams when attacking and more challenging for human player to work an opening. How about 3 game speeds to choose from? Arcade, Normal & Simulation. Arcade is faster than normal & simluation is slower.



Referees:

Need to make bad calls. Interact more (ball being able to hit them). Opposition gets more cards.



Artificial Inteligence:

AI needs to stop cheating. Excessive AI. Less random momentum shifts. Higher level of difficulty.



Sounds/Audio:

Possibility to insert created team’s names.More slots for chants. Cut off the sound when kicking the ball. Return of after match player comments. Licensed music. National anthems. Fans at home should be louder. User as commentator. Crowd chants should be a little longer. ESPN (latinamerica) commentators, or some argentinian, not mexicans please.




Animations:

Cameramen, police, substitutes. Better tackling animations. Controllable goal celebrations. Cut scenes from players/coaches during negotiations. Untucked shirts. Option to turn off cut scenes and replays. No sandbags behind goals. Goalkeeper’s gloves should be official ones.




Tactics:

Possibility to customize tactics. Grid reference on players positions on the formations. Players played out of position should detract teamwork.




Licenses:

More licenses. Bundesliga, Russian League. Scottish League, MLS, Mexican, Argentinean, Brazil, Chile and Columbian leagues. More European “minor” teams. More national teams from Africa and the Americas. Australian League, Second division leagues. More national teams from Asia. New Zealand. Seria A and La Liga. Portugal league. Greek superleague




Online:

Community mode for customizable leagues. Use of Master League team at online matches. Too slow. Co-up online. Save the latest score before disconnection together with the time of disconnection and post it.
A pre-match option to disable all replays during match. A new ranking system, based on the ELO rating. A match option where both players get a random team with random daily forms (arrows), together with a seperate ranking list solely based on the results of these random matches. Network Multiplayers.





Editing:

More options. Editing Stadiums. Better kit editing. Use of preset player’s faces/hair. Option to switch between home or away shorts, shirts and socks. 3 to 4 kits per team. More slots to create teams. Sock lengths and shorter shorts. More stadiums. Create your manager. Different sized pitches.



Become a Legend:

Possibility to various training exercises. More control over contract negotiations, loans. Being able to request to be taken off a game. Equalize AI for both teams. Improve ranking system. Better AI for teammates. Challenge training




Trophy list:

What type of trophies, are they achievable?




Camera:

Zoom able for side and vertical views.




Players:

Differentiate between hidden and classic players. Individual expressions for some players. Add a first touch attribute. Conditional arrows aren't needed anymore. Special abilities also are too general.



Master League:

Better transfers. Being able to use the other league B section. Manager mode. More difficulty levels. Real currency. Bigger player database. Include Champions League an European League. Include the possibility for randomized database.



Weather:

Will weather play a major role? Will it change during matches? Snow.




Competitions:

World Cup Qualifiers mode. U-17, U-20, U-23, Olympics, Women. Europe’s Best Vs. Rest of the World. Random selection matches. Scenario matches. Possibility to play against another player on every opposition match. Home teams should have an advantage. Results of other games as popups during the game. 5-A-Side




Others:

Same release dates.





If your idea is not here, please let me know so that it can be included. I tried to get most of them, but I might have missed yours. Please state which section it should be in (i.e. Animation, Game play). Also try to make it no more than one sentence long.



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Old 23-06-2009, 20:14   #2
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Nice Trevi, it'd be cool if you could keep updating this and then possibly make it a sticky.
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Old 23-06-2009, 20:18   #3
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Trevi has stepped out of the darkness into slightly less darkness

In all honesty, today was a very slow day at the office, so it might be difficult for me to keep updating it. But I would make it a lot easier for me if any idea not covered in the first post gets posted here so that I can update the first post with it.
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Old 23-06-2009, 20:58   #4
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Nice summary Trevi

Add the Greek superleague under the Licenses if you can as my contribution.
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Old 23-06-2009, 21:24   #5
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you know how in 08 it was body balance and in 09 it was about speed(as u said), dont overpower one, make them balanced.

ADD a first touch attribute so players like cesc are more effective because they get more time to pass because of their brilliant first touch

EDIT: also make the AI harder without cheating

achieved by R.E.A.L AI

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ok i got that from fight night round 4 but the principles are the same just different sport

http://blog.fightnight.easports.com/...t-round-4.aspx
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Old 23-06-2009, 21:46   #6
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Long time player, first time poster.........

How about sorting the crowds out? give the game some atmosphere, get the crowd behind the team and really get the excitement going!!! last minute winner and the crowd goes crazy!! so much the camera shakes!! score a goal away from home and silence the crowd, get one back and the game turns as the crowd gets behind the team. This actually happens in real football so to make the game more realistic this feature should be added.

stop the auto sliding!!! this is such a disappointing feature...... I dont need to say anymore as I know everybody knows what I am talking about.

Im sorry to say this but maybe you should play FIFA and pick up some of the 'little touches' to make the game more attractive!!

Scenarios, bring them back.
injuries - lets see and hear the bone crunching tackles! it happens so lets see it.

but please do something about the crowd and sound fx!!

Stani out.

1. How long have you been playing PES? Since 1996(ISS)

2. What are the aspects you like most about PES? No two goals are the same, unlike FIFA.

3. What are the aspects that you don't like about PES? auto sliding, online play, sometimes I have to physically wrestle with my joypad to get my player to run in the direction I want.
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Old 23-06-2009, 22:09   #7
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Very good idea putting all this into a list.

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Master League:

Better transfers. Being able to use the other league B section. Manager mode. More difficulty levels. Real currency. Bigger player database. Include Champions League an European League.
konami announced today that the ML will include the Champions League and the Europa league
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Old 23-06-2009, 23:03   #8
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very good idea putting all this into a list.



Konami announced today that the ml will include the champions league and the europa league
great! :d
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Old 24-06-2009, 08:05   #9
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Game mode
• A good friend of mine and I really, really reeeeaally miss being able to play a season with our favorite team co-up online!!! (Gears of War'ish). Us playing on the same team against the cpu in a regular season/tournament, just like if we were playing on the same console - just online instead.

• A 5-A-Side online (and offline for that matter) mode, instead of a full 11 vs. 11. Should be played on a smaller pitch - which would encourage every player to play both defensive- and offensively - thus making every player feel like a part of the game during the entire match.

Gameplay
• Make manual passing like in FIFA09 (Aim with the left stick and press the pass-button) - (sorry - but it works sooo much better than the current manual passing with the right stick. Or at least make it optional)

• Please make the "Finesse shooting button" so, that you have to press and hold it before and during your shot. Right now you press shoot and then quickly have to press the finesse shooting button. It's difficult and most of the time, you don't make the accurate finesse shot. A finesse shot is a calculated move and therefore you should be more in control of it!

1. How long have you been playing PES? Since the first ISS Pro Evo on Playstation1

2. What are the aspects you like most about PES? Variety in goal scoring • Individual play-likeness (in animation) (ex. Beckham & Roberto Carlos freekick style, Z. Zidane look like his real counterpart etc.) • The simulation'ish feel to the game • Being able to win with almost every team by editing the right tactic for the team • The old deep edit-mode • And lastly; just the old feel of the game - no two games were the same.

3. What are the aspects that you don't like about PES? Goalkeepers can't pass the ball straight away - they seem to freeze for 3 seconds!?! • The invicible barriers on goalkicks and throw-ins • The arcady feel it has gotten in '08 and '09 (which is the reason why I didn't buy PES for the first time ever in '09!!) • The somewhat bad animations (especially on the goalkeepers!!) • Not being able to fully edit now that PES hasn't got licenses • 8-way movement.
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Old 24-06-2009, 08:47   #10
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i think the red, orange, green, blue and white arrows aren't needed anymore, they are too random and dont do justice to how well a players playing. id like to see a combination of bars that can relate to how well the player is playing to their potential like "match fitness" and "confidence" that shows how well the player is playing.

the special abilities also are too general, i find that these stats dont differentiate between good and world class players. could we have an option of having a different level of special ability stars

PES has lacked a depth of injuries the only way a player can be injured is through getting tackled, what about training injuries and the likes of michael owen who got hamstring injuries everytime he ran. i feel that "injury proneness" doesnt justify this. i would like to see something along the lines of "tackle endurance" which could be how well a player copes with being kicked about, and then "injury proneness" could be included as a how likely a player is to pick up an injury through other means like owen getting hamstring injuries all the time
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Old 24-06-2009, 09:12   #11
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Not being able to fully edit now that PES hasn't got licenses

You would think they could make it easier to edit the teams on the pc platform.
Football manager has grown as its easier to modify. In fact most games that on the pc that have done really well have catered for people who like to modify.
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Old 24-06-2009, 10:14   #12
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---Please rephrase in order for it to comply with the rules of the section.---

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I want to see the ref doing mistakes! This would bring more realism to the game.
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Old 24-06-2009, 15:40   #14
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next pro - please include an option to turn off cut scenes and replays for those that wish to be able to do this. cheers
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1. GAMEPLAY


1.1. PHYSICS (weight of players, players need to interact with each other)

1.2. MANUAL PASSING (on both analogue and triangle and x button)

1.3. BETTER MANUAL SHOOTING (shooting is still to easy to master and aimed at five year olds with consistent play)

1.4. PACE (needs to be slowed down, manual passing would allow you to do this as in real football)

1.5. REFEREES Can be used real ones or at least four of them:
1- super ref, all choices right and never makes mistakes, collina JR.
2- hard ref- calles for every little foul and gives a penalty for a small shirt pulling in the box and goes hard with cards.
3- fluid ref- lets the game flow, doesnt call for every push like you have now, stopes the game only when neccesary and goes easy with cards.
4- realistic ref- a combination of the tough and easy refs, sometimes makes mistakes and sometimes makes good calles, can let offside sometimes.

1.6. CONFLICTS - we would like to see some konflikts during the matches (only once or twice in one season) Punching, headbutts, simulating and so.. It would bring some atmosfere to the most important matches

1.7. GOALKEEPERS - They have to be stronger in safes, there should be less chance to score goals from droped balls.

1.8. STAMINA - Players should collapse on the pitch after being to tired

1.9. MIX AND MATCH KITS - from PES 5

1.10 MATCH LENGHTS ( fully customisible mins )

1.11 GAME OPTIONS ( Golden goal, Silver goal, Penalties etc. )

1.12 PENALTY SYSTEM ( Improve system )

1.13 Momentum Shifts (Momentum Shifts should be affected by more aspects like team chemistry, then just randomized)
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2. GAMEMODES

2.1. MASTER LEAGUE - MORE LEAGUES, MORE DIVISIONS, MORE PLAYERS (FM is right example - no need for license), CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, SUPER CUP

2.2. TRAINING MODE - HOW IT USED TO BE IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS

2.3. ONE ON ONE LOADING - (FIFA)

2.4. PES SHOP

2.5. PENALTY MODE


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3. AI

3.1. DIFFICULTY

3.2. SCRIPTING (computer AI without the aid of scripting both for and against you. When you win on pes it feels like the computer has let you win.) SOLLUTION> FOUR OF US GENERALY AGREED, THAT IT SHOULD HAVE LESS EFFECT ON THE MATCH, NONE OF US IS HAPPY HOW IT IS AT THE MOMENT


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4. STATS AND LICENCES


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5. GRAPHICS - ANIMATIONS, STADIUMS, DRESS etc.

5.1. NEW ANIMATIONS FOR RUNNING

5.2. MORE STADIUMS FROM EPL ( Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U, Newcastle )

5.3. PITCHES CHOICES ( Depending on weather)

5.4. SNOW ( From PES 5 )


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6. SOUND

6.1. FULL NEXT-GEN COMENTARY (Working with stats, team names and so)

6.2. BRAZILIAN-SPANISH COMENTARY (Gol, Gol, Gol, Gooooooooooooolll!! :-) )


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7. EDITING

7.1. IN GAME STADIUM CREATOR, POSSIBILITY OF UNLIMITED STADIUMS

7.2. IN GAME SHOES AND BALLS STADIUM CREATOR


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8. GENERAL

8.1. MEMORY (Look at what made the ps1 and ps2 games so successful and advance on that)












As compiled by "jenicek68"



Also:

1. I want more options for free kicks- instead of just having a second taker who can pass, kick and move away, I want a second taker that can do various thing- run and jump over the ball, deliver a deadly through pass.
Also, an option for two assistants who can jump over the ball, the trick where one pass, the second stops, and the thirs shoots.

2. I want more options for free kicks- instead of just having a second taker who can pass, kick and move away, I want a second taker that can do various thing- run and jump over the ball, deliver a deadly through pass.
Also, an option for two assistants who can jump over the ball, the trick where one pass, the second stops, and the thirs shoots.
Instead of just adjusting the amount of players in the wall and deciding whether they jump, run or stand, I have a totally different system.

My idea is that when there is a free kick called against you, you will have half a minute or so to put up your wall.

You will start with no one and you will have to decide how many people you want to put, where to put them and what they will do.

You could also have the option to change angels, like from the keeper's eye, and to hold the post for a better angle like in real life, so you can move the wall to either side.

Also, when the time is up (there will be like a small countdown clock), the ref will blow the whistle and the opponent can decide to wait for or to kick the ball when you're not ready (like Messi did a year ago).

This should be an option that you can decide to turn on and off.

I think this will be so cool against your friends, and just to have so much control will be great
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