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Old 16-10-2019, 13:27   #1
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Controls Frustration

Hi all,

Iíve been an avid PES player since the days of ISS, have bought literally every version since with the exception of maybe 2017/2018 ish.

Now Iím not the absolute best player in the world but Iíve always been competitive in every match. This 2020 is beginning to wear me down.

So Iíve come to the conclusion, the game has evolved and Iím missing something (probably something obvious - but canít see a training mode or an in game manual)

So hereís my problem, the player movement and controls feel incredibly sluggish. When receiving the ball even if Iím running towards the pass itís like my guys are waiting on it, by which time Iím closed down or tackled. If I do receive it, donít even bother turning cause itís like turning in quick sand. Christ if I turn inside or outside an man.....tackled every time. Passing doesnít always go where Iím aiming it to go and LB and X for a 1:2 seems ineffective.

Defending.......holy s4!t! So the opponent is in possession and unlike me.....not a single one of my players anywhere near him. Try to change man and it gives me some player miles away but by the time Iíve got control of a nearby man Iíve lost big ground. Now previously Iíd read the pass, quick change of player and be right on the mans back. Not in 2020 and just canít get to grips with what Iím doing wrong or what has changed. Press and hold A to tackle when mans running straight on, works not bad but for the fact if I do it 4/5 passes in a row will break to the opposition man and if he tackles me......just sailing away with possession.

The one that really gets me is the defending though, Iím dominating games and conceding 3 goals in 3 attacks even though I can see where the next pass is going and even sometimes I get a guy in the road and the ball literally just passes by me without any intervention.

Needing help guys any suggestions would be much appreciated. I have tried changing user settings etc so if thereís a setting Iím missing by all means give me a shout


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Old 16-10-2019, 14:15   #2
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Do you had these problems in the demo also?
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Old 16-10-2019, 15:08   #3
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So Iíve come to the conclusion, the game has evolved and Iím missing something (probably something obvious - but canít see a training mode or an in game manual)

Training is in the "Local Match" on home screen. You need to scroll right down to the bottom. Ridiculous place to put it, I know!



So hereís my problem, the player movement and controls feel incredibly sluggish. When receiving the ball even if Iím running towards the pass itís like my guys are waiting on it, by which time Iím closed down or tackled. If I do receive it, donít even bother turning cause itís like turning in quick sand. Christ if I turn inside or outside an man.....tackled every time. Passing doesnít always go where Iím aiming it to go and LB and X for a 1:2 seems ineffective.

When receiving the ball, just as your player receives the ball, hit sprint and the R2 or RT buttons and angle your player away from the opponent. You should knock the ball to the side and instantly sprint into space.



Defending.......holy s4!t! So the opponent is in possession and unlike me.....not a single one of my players anywhere near him. Try to change man and it gives me some player miles away but by the time Iíve got control of a nearby man Iíve lost big ground. Now previously Iíd read the pass, quick change of player and be right on the mans back. Not in 2020 and just canít get to grips with what Iím doing wrong or what has changed. Press and hold A to tackle when mans running straight on, works not bad but for the fact if I do it 4/5 passes in a row will break to the opposition man and if he tackles me......just sailing away with possession.

If you're on XBOX hold X Button and A Button together to get two of your players to chase the opposition down.
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For the record, there are issues with the game play, so it's not just you.

Also, try changing some of the teams tactics in the Edit Section to:
Long Ball and Counter Attack
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Old 16-10-2019, 18:32   #5
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Do you had these problems in the demo also?
Hard to say mate Iím purely talking from an online perspective. I donít recall having too many issues on the demo. And I donít play offline on the game.
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So Iíve come to the conclusion, the game has evolved and Iím missing something (probably something obvious - but canít see a training mode or an in game manual)

Training is in the "Local Match" on home screen. You need to scroll right down to the bottom. Ridiculous place to put it, I know!



So hereís my problem, the player movement and controls feel incredibly sluggish. When receiving the ball even if Iím running towards the pass itís like my guys are waiting on it, by which time Iím closed down or tackled. If I do receive it, donít even bother turning cause itís like turning in quick sand. Christ if I turn inside or outside an man.....tackled every time. Passing doesnít always go where Iím aiming it to go and LB and X for a 1:2 seems ineffective.

When receiving the ball, just as your player receives the ball, hit sprint and the R2 or RT buttons and angle your player away from the opponent. You should knock the ball to the side and instantly sprint into space.



Defending.......holy s4!t! So the opponent is in possession and unlike me.....not a single one of my players anywhere near him. Try to change man and it gives me some player miles away but by the time Iíve got control of a nearby man Iíve lost big ground. Now previously Iíd read the pass, quick change of player and be right on the mans back. Not in 2020 and just canít get to grips with what Iím doing wrong or what has changed. Press and hold A to tackle when mans running straight on, works not bad but for the fact if I do it 4/5 passes in a row will break to the opposition man and if he tackles me......just sailing away with possession.

If you're on XBOX hold X Button and A Button together to get two of your players to chase the opposition down.

Hey thanks for the response. This is certainly useful to look at, the defending part X and A ...... yep I am using this.......but itís almost like I have no control over the players for a split second and others have full control over their players
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For the record, there are issues with the game play, so it's not just you.

Also, try changing some of the teams tactics in the Edit Section to:
Long Ball and Counter Attack
to stop shit teams playing keep-football like Barcelona.
Do you know of the top of your head is there a man mark option somewhere like there is on corners? Struggling to find that too
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Hey thanks for the response. This is certainly useful to look at, the defending part X and A ...... yep I am using this.......but itís almost like I have no control over the players for a split second and others have full control over their players
One command I think is very useful is pressing X twice. It makes unselected players rush in the direction of the player with the ball, just like using Gegenpress, with the advantage that you can choose when to use it and prevent your players to open space when you don't want them to.
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One command I think is very useful is pressing X twice. It makes unselected players rush in the direction of the player with the ball, just like using Gegenpress, with the advantage that you can choose when to use it and prevent your players to open space when you don't want them to.
This is what Iím missing in defence. This is exactly
Whatís happening against me.

What ok earth is Gegenpress?
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This is what Iím missing in defence. This is exactly
Whatís happening against me.

What ok earth is Gegenpress?
Gegenpress is an advanced instruction you can set for your defense, so that when you loose the ball, three players will rush and try to recover it. A lot of people use it, but the problem is that it increases fatigue a lot and leaves a lot of space for the attacking team to explore. I use it only when I'm in a hurry, when the game is closing it's end and I'm loosing.

If you press and hold X button, an unselected player will rush in the direction of the ball; if you press X twice and hold, two or three unselected players will rush, just like gegenpress, but you can choose when to do it.

One nice way to defend (I'm a beginner too, so I'm still getting used to it and it can be confusing sometimes) is to hold the X button, so that an unselected player will chase the player with the ball and use your selected player to close the gaps or intercept passes. It is confusing at first, since when selecting a new player, things become a little messy. It takes practice, but I'm beginning to grab it and have been able to place a more solid defense, mainly against through balls.
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