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Old 09-06-2018, 21:37   #1
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to all kit makers ! want to your kit color look like official in pes 2019?

first of all, no offence ! I really appreciate all the kit makers for their effort to make this game better for other users. but some small tricks can make their work more natural.

we all want kits to be look like official kits and look natural in the game. some kit makers are very accurate about design details but don't pay attention about natural colors !
I hope we can get some qualify kits and (then better option file quality) for pes 2019 by observance of some points.
most of the kit makers usually use saturation colors and too shiny colors to make a kit. it make the kit look unnatural and cartoony.
if you consider Konami official kits you can get some hints. (remember this Brazil official kit to show change between pes 2017 and pes 2018?)
its white is (RGB 217/217/217) (not 255/255/255)
black is (RGB 40/40/40) (not o/o/o)
and other colors haven't a factor on 0 or 255
generally if you keep all factors above 40 and under 217, you will get more natural color.
for example about most shiny red color in the game, can be (RGB 217/40/40) (not 255/0/0). I think we can consider (217/40/40) as a limit for most shiny red in the game, and of course for a regular red I prefer less contrast like (RGB 185/55/55). (all of these examples are about pure red ... but for another example: if it trend a little to pink the Blue factor should get bigger value than the Green one)

now compare some of my kits(or edited color by me in this method) and some official kits and some regular kit from an option file.

which one is more natural and more look like an official kit?
so you can make your kits look like official too





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Old 10-06-2018, 01:55   #2
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the problem is some kit makers use pesmaster to make kits and that program have to shainy colors, and dont looks good in game, for ps4 you need to use colors like konami to have a good result, specialy red and white
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:02   #3
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the problem is some kit makers use pesmaster to make kits and that program have to shiny colors, and dont looks good in game, for ps4 you need to use colors like konami to have a good result, specialy red and white
yeah, I see.
but even in pesmaster kit creator they can use a softer color (not the simple one in menu), it will take a few minute.
then if still it was a little shiny, can decrease the contrast with photoshop.

if they choose a simple color like (255/0/0) decreasing contrast doesn't change anything (it works with ratio), and should do another method in photoshop which will take a lot more time. but if the basic color be (245/10/10) decreasing contrast can help to make it less shiny.
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:30   #4
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You are forgetting that there are sponsors on some kits that have a black made of 20/20/20 (or, to be exact, 21/20/21) black, which is "pure black" on Konami's kits. Also, some sponsor icons are of a brighter shade of white than the regular 216 white.

I wouldn't limit all colors to the spectrum of 40-216, also I think that many of Konami's kits look pretty washed out. If you like that look, fine, but I would be careful to recommend this to any kitmaker. Of course you shouldn't go for the brightest colors and check your kit in-game if it looks right, but you also shouldn't be limited to the 40-216 space.

That Brazil kit in your last post, for example, looks way too washed out, and not "realistic" anymore, even compared with other Konami kits.
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You are forgetting that there are sponsors on some kits that have a black made of 20/20/20 (or, to be exact, 21/20/21) black, which is "pure black" on Konami's kits. Also, some sponsor icons are of a brighter shade of white than the regular 216 white.

I wouldn't limit all colors to the spectrum of 40-216, also I think that many of Konami's kits look pretty washed out. If you like that look, fine, but I would be careful to recommend this to any kitmaker. Of course you shouldn't go for the brightest colors and check your kit in-game if it looks right, but you also shouldn't be limited to the 40-216 space.

That Brazil kit in your last post, for example, looks way too washed out, and not "realistic" anymore, even compared with other Konami kits.
I recommend to other because of two reason
1. official Konami kit that is adjust to this game and brightness better than most of kit makers
2. (more important IMO) I tested most of my kits several time ... again again and again in the game ... in the day light, in the night light, and some of them that I was really careful about, are better than official ones in the game (on the pitch, not just in the edit mode ... yes ! I claim it because I spend a lot of time to test them in different situation)

and finally that 40-217 limit is not my favorite and not the limits that I used in these pictures, (I prefer even less contrast, and this Brazil classic kit has far less contrast) the 40/217 limit is the minimum thing that I recommend to observe. (it still will be shiny in some colors)

however, no force, everyone can make whatever they want, I just recommend it as a scrupulous person! who tested them faaaaaar more than others ... (maybe about 10-12 time on the pitch for some kits ... change a little and test again ...)

maybe pes 2019 new lighting change these limits a bit (in pes 2018 has more contrast than pes 2017 in term of kits ... so I got closer to that limits(40-217) ... in 2017 less contrast had better view in game (specially other colors, not black and white)

at least kit makers can avoid 0 and 255 that are really time consuming in photoshop to change them ...

in the end, I put some of my on the pitch videos, so kit makers can see if they have natural color or not


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEOybfRlhNU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPJiD9RpjW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opJ3BCjjID0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFyKxzfIqLw
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