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View Poll Results: Points deductions and penalty fees
-10 point deduction, 2nd half of the season 4 36.36%
-25 point deduction, 2nd half of the season 2 18.18%
-35 point deduction, 2nd half of the season 4 36.36%
-£100k per week, 1st half of the season 0 0%
-£250k per week, 1st half of the season 1 9.09%
-£350k per week, 1st half of the season 6 54.55%
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Old 11-09-2012, 15:02   #16
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With regards to the second half of the season: since it's a one off penalty, I'll go for the max (30 or 35 per player).

As for the weekly fines, I'd go for £250k per player, per (match) week. I'm basing that on there being someone short by a maximum of two players, therefore, £0.5m per week.

I'm not in too much of a thinking mood right now, but points=money. Say if you did deduct 30 points, that's, in effect, the same as fining £3m. Would deducting points hurt more than a fine?
I'd say so, especially in the second half of the season where money then becomes meaningless following the January transfer window.


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Old 11-09-2012, 17:21   #17
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Would this be a set fine, or per player? Eg if a manager only has 23 players, would they lose 35 or 70 points?
A one off deduction. I'm trying to avoid being draconian.
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Old 11-09-2012, 17:43   #18
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I think in this instance, you need to be draconian.

Like I said previously, it's not difficult to sign 25 players.
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Old 11-09-2012, 18:53   #19
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Would deducting points hurt more than a fine?
I guess the obvious additional consequence is that they actually have less points, which could potentially impact their league ranking.

Simply fining them has no bearing on where they stand in the league table.
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Old 10-02-2013, 15:26   #20
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OK, so in the end there is only one club that couldn't complete their 25. This was a difficult decision to make. On one side we have a very competitive table on both ends of the table that I don't want to disrupt. On the other side, many clubs had to scramble to gain players to make their 25 this January Transfer Window. Those clubs did so in fear of the penalty that could be assessed. So, I don't feel as much as an ogre now as I did when I was first faced with having to penalize teams because;....many clubs expected a penalty was expected because the rules were clear.

I decided to give Norfolk Enchance the option here, choose one:
A) loss of 7 points (this is what Dragonfly was penalized in money value for the first half of the season)
B) Register one of Norfolk Enchance's named 25 man squad as a GK that cannot be used for any position the remainder of the season. In other words, this is a player penalty.
@Berry , please post your choice here.
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Old 10-02-2013, 15:32   #21
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The same punishment as Dragonfly got. It would be unfair for any different treatment by taking points off. If he gets points deducted then DF also needs points deducted.
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Old 10-02-2013, 15:36   #22
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Old 10-02-2013, 15:45   #23
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A)

Because B) isn't really a proper punishment. Though, I quite liked my idea of "suspending" his highest scoring player for a few weeks.
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Unless for option B we get to choose the player...?
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I bet the people who've voted for 35points are the ones in and around him.
Time to just make your own choice Iron rather than this farcical diplomatic vote.
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Old 10-02-2013, 15:58   #26
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Same punishment I got. Give him a League 2 player for a fee.
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Old 10-02-2013, 16:09   #27
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i confused people, this wasn't a poll. Wasn't being diplomatic. Berry has to choose.

I am not penalizing him money btw, that just doesn't make sense.

the reason I am giving him a choice is only because I did not state a penalty before we came to this.
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Old 10-02-2013, 16:14   #28
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I get that you're giving him an option, but I don't think it's right to change the punishment during a season. I think points should've been deducted from the start, rather than money, but I wasn't going to argue with that when it happened to me.
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Old 10-02-2013, 16:21   #29
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It was fucking daft your punishment when others had to sell good players to finish their squad.
He's not going to choose minus 35 points is he? Especially when money is pointless now. I'm sure he'd be willing to pay millions.
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Old 10-02-2013, 16:25   #30
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B) is a crap punishment. He could easily pick some shit player like Rodwell, who's never going to be picked in his midfield, to play in goal. Not a punishment at all.
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