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Old 20-09-2008, 11:47   #61
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Oh and btw. C. Ronaldo was a great player this season. Dont start saying he is overrated and such because that will be absolutely stupid. He is 23, so it was a magic season for him and I believe,(look, I hate him too, and I hate M. Utd. but) he will be a legend when he retires.

Other players that were legends before INCLUDE:

Chilavert- average goalkeeper, great FK and PK scorer.
Rogério Ceni- not retired yet, the same thing as Chilavert, but I like Paraguay so Im suspicious.
Mijatovic+ Milosevic- Two great Yugoslavians, great scorers
Hagi- not really good, but a good playmaker
Ronaldinho- His tricks were magic
Deco- back in Porto days he made everything look easy
Kahn- Great GK, in his 30-34
Peter Schmeichel- Same as above but younger
De Jong( PSV)- good playmaker
Dia (Southampton) bad player, so bad he was a legend

And Michael Schumacher, Great player
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Old 20-09-2008, 12:37   #62
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Rogério Ceni and Marcos are legends not just because they are good, but because they never had chosed another club... The same case as Del Piero and Totti
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Old 24-09-2008, 02:32   #63
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IS THERE GOING TO BE A PES SHOP?

and IMHO RONALDO is the 3rd greatest player of all-time behind: PELE and MARADONA.

R9 was the best player of his generation and the greatest number 9 ever!
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Old 24-09-2008, 02:57   #64
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IS THERE GOING TO BE A PES SHOP?

and IMHO RONALDO is the 3rd greatest player of all-time behind: PELE and MARADONA.

R9 was the best player of his generation and the greatest number 9 ever!
Thats a load of rubbish.How long exactly have you been watching football?And he was not the best player of his generation Zidane was.He would not even get into a all-time 11
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Old 24-09-2008, 03:22   #65
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Thats a load of rubbish.How long exactly have you been watching football?And he was not the best player of his generation Zidane was.He would not even get into a all-time 11
That's similar to my Opinion on Ronaldo..

Ronaldo, an Impressive player -but- Not as good Tactically.. That is, not as good as some of his Individual Genialities made him out to be. Other players of the same Generation scored more Goals and made more Assists -with- Less Touches on the ball.

I would take Romario before him..

Zidane?? Don't know about him, I have seen a lot of players -and- I think Zidane was more beautiful to watch than actually useful.

Anyways, from the mentioned generation I liked Carlos Valderrama, Romario, Roberto Baggio, Van Basten, Zinedine Zidane, Gabriel Batistuta, Pavel Nedved, Matt Le Tissier, Ronaldo (in his prime), and Juan Roman Riquelme.

There where a lot of great players in that generation, so I'm sure I'm forgetting someone -but- from the ones I mentioned I think Romario was the best.

But as with Most things, it's all a matter of Opinion, still Debatable -but- a matter of taste nevertheless.
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Old 24-09-2008, 03:39   #66
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That's similar to my Opinion on Ronaldo..

Ronaldo, an Impressive player -but- Not as good Tactically.. That is, not as good as some of his Individual Genialities made him out to be. Other players of the same Generation scored more Goals and made more Assists -with- Less Touches on the ball.

I would take Romario before him..

Zidane?? Don't know about him, I have seen a lot of players -and- I think Zidane was more beautiful to watch than actually useful.

Anyways, from the mentioned generation I liked Carlos Valderrama, Romario, Roberto Baggio, Van Basten, Zinedine Zidane, Gabriel Batistuta, Pavel Nedved, Matt Le Tissier, Ronaldo (in his prime), and Juan Roman Riquelme.

There where a lot of great players in that generation, so I'm sure I'm forgetting someone -but- from the ones I mentioned I think Romario was the best.

But as with Most things, it's all a matter of Opinion, still Debatable -but- a matter of taste nevertheless.
I cant take you seriously when you say you think "Zidane was more beautiful to watch than actually usefull"
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I cant take you seriously when you say you think "Zidane was more beautiful to watch than actually usefull"
If you can't take Different Opinions seriously -then- you cannot argue seriously.

You obviously have things to learn Football-wise.. Who was Zidane in Italy?? Who was Zidane in the French League??

Did you know a Team leaded by Zidane actually ended being relegated to the 2nd Division of the French League?

Did you even considered that Guti has probably made more Assists for Real Madrid in this last 2 seasons -than- Zidane managed in his 5 years with them..

Zidane was a great player, I'm not saying he wasn't.. that's Unquestionable. I'm just saying I personally prefer others.
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Old 24-09-2008, 05:04   #68
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Anyways, from the mentioned generation I liked Carlos Valderrama, Romario, Roberto Baggio, Van Basten, Zinedine Zidane, Gabriel Batistuta, Pavel Nedved, Matt Le Tissier, Ronaldo (in his prime), and Juan Roman Riquelme.

....got a bit of a problem with this list...van basten and baggio were of a different generation...van basten retired before ronaldo played in europe... Riquelme has no right to be on this list...come on 2 great seasons at villareal, but what else? he plays in argentina now, which is a waste of talent...just look at what villareal did last season with out riquelme (2nd place)....i cant believe no one gives bergkamp respect, he was a f-in baller.
...not even gonna get into valderrama

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Anyways, from the mentioned generation I liked Carlos Valderrama, Romario, Roberto Baggio, Van Basten, Zinedine Zidane, Gabriel Batistuta, Pavel Nedved, Matt Le Tissier, Ronaldo (in his prime), and Juan Roman Riquelme.

....got a bit of a problem with this list...van basten and baggio were of a different generation...van basten retired before ronaldo played in europe... Riquelme has no right to be on this list...come on 2 great seasons at villareal, but what else? he plays in argentina now, which is a waste of talent...just look at what villareal did last season with out riquelme (2nd place)....i cant believe no one gives bergkamp respect, he was a f-in baller
Oh, Riquelme has no right to be on that list?? And WHY is that? Is he Not Big enough for it? What a joke, you wouldn't recognize an extraordinary player if it hit you straight in the face..

Have you ever Realized that there is Life outside of Europe?? Before going to Villarreal, Riquelme had already won 2 Copa Libertadores and 1 Intercontinental Cup.

And then again, when has Francesco Totti ever Leaded Roma to a Champions League Semi-Final?? And please Consider that Riquelme Only played at Villarreal for 3 years.

Another similar example would be Ronaldinho, did Ronaldinho even managed to qualify PSG to the Champions League??

Argentine League a waste of Talent?? That's funny, isn't the Argentine League responsible for all the great Talent that it produces?? Diego Maradona, Alfredo Di Stefano, Juan Roman Riquelme, Sebastian Veron, Leo Messi, Sergio Aguero, etc, etc..

You should really think Twice before inventing BS.

And as for Dennis Bergkamp.. brilliant player, his 1st-touch is the best I've seen. Maybe he is kind of underrated because he was disappointing at Inter.
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Carlos Valderrama?? Ever saw him play? Let me tell you, Valderrama gave one of the best Performances of the 1990 World Cup, against Germany he really showed his class.

Europeans always had trouble with Valderrama, England in particular.. his purposely scripted "Slowness", his Shielding of the ball, and his Passes.

Most Defenders couldn't read his game because of his Unpredictability.. he was Usually Casual and Slow, but he always knew When to catch the opposition by surprise.. tended to make defense-splitting passes consistently.

Colombia vs Germany, best match of the 1990 World Cup.

1990 WC Final?? It was obviously Fixed, as most World Cup Finals are.. Colombia vs Germany in the 1990 WC is a remainder of Why Football is so powerful.

I can see Why Valderrama is so Overlooked.. But regardless of that, FACT still is that he was much better than most people think.
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If you can't take Different Opinions seriously -then- you cannot argue seriously.

You obviously have things to learn Football-wise.. Who was Zidane in Italy?? Who was Zidane in the French League??

Did you know a Team leaded by Zidane actually ended being relegated to the 2nd Division of the French League?

Did you even considered that Guti has probably made more Assists for Real Madrid in this last 2 seasons -than- Zidane made in his 5 years with them..

Zidane was a great player, I'm not saying he wasn't.. that's Unquestionable. I'm just saying I personally prefer others.

This is horseshite.
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This is horseshite.
Whatever.. Zidane was the best player of his generation?? Now that's horseshite.
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carlos Valderrama?? Ever Saw Him Play? Let Me Tell You, Valderrama Gave One Of The Best Performances Of The 1990 World Cup, Against Germany He Really Showed His Class.

Europeans Always Had Trouble With Valderrama, England In Particular.. His Purposely Scripted "slowness", His Shielding Of The Ball, And His Passes.

Most Defenders Couldn't Read His Game Because Of His Unpredictability.. He Was Usually Casual And Slow, But He Always Knew When To Catch The Opposition By Surprise.. Tended To Make Defense-splitting Passes Consistently.

Colombia Vs Germany, Best Match Of The 1990 World Cup.

1990 Wc Final?? It Was Obviously Fixed, As Most World Cup Finals Are.. Colombia Vs Germany In The 1990 Wc Is A Remainder Of Why Football Is So Powerful.

I Can See Why Valderrama Is So Overlooked.. But Regardless Of That, Fact Still Is That He Was Much Better Than Most People Think.
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Omg!!?? How BORING.. If that's all you really want to say, keep it to yourself.

Replying to your posts is a complete waste of time. You just don't have anything better to say, don't you??
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Whatever.. Zidane was the best player of his generation?? Now that's horseshite.
You know SFA about football.You probably had a valderamma hair style thats why you like him
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