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Old 04-05-2009, 19:01   #181
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That was a good read and I do agree with him on most of the stuff. I would also like to add to that, although this is mainly aimed at WWE. Tag team division has went right down the shitter. The rivalries between The Hardys, Edge & Christian and The Dudleys were great and leaded to great matches. What tag teams have we got now? The Colóns and Cryme Tyme. London and Kendrick and MNM were decent but as soon as Paul London and Joey Mercury were punted then that was it for them. The Miz and Morrison had a good run but ended with similar (except they are both with the company still), however I still liked John Morrison better as Nitro and in MNM.

Unless Shelton Benjamin is going to get a push (personally I would like to see him feud with John Morrison as I thought their last match on SmackDown! was entertaining) I think they could have continued withe the World's Greatest Tag Team a bit longer to keep things lively in the tag division. Now they pick two wrestlers out of a hat and put them in a match with The Colóns.

TNA's tag divsion looks decent with LAX, Motor City Machine Guns, No Limit, Lethal Consequences, British Invasion, The Dudleys and Beer Money, Inc. yet TNA is a smaller company than WWE.

I think that is all I can say on the subject but I miss the days WWE had some entertaining tag teams, feuds and matches.
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Old 04-05-2009, 19:53   #182
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That was a good read and I do agree with him on most of the stuff. I would also like to add to that, although this is mainly aimed at WWE. Tag team division has went right down the shitter. The rivalries between The Hardys, Edge & Christian and The Dudleys were great and leaded to great matches. What tag teams have we got now? The Colóns and Cryme Tyme. London and Kendrick and MNM were decent but as soon as Paul London and Joey Mercury were punted then that was it for them. The Miz and Morrison had a good run but ended with similar (except they are both with the company still), however I still liked John Morrison better as Nitro and in MNM.

Unless Shelton Benjamin is going to get a push (personally I would like to see him feud with John Morrison as I thought their last match on SmackDown! was entertaining) I think they could have continued withe the World's Greatest Tag Team a bit longer to keep things lively in the tag division. Now they pick two wrestlers out of a hat and put them in a match with The Colóns.

TNA's tag divsion looks decent with LAX, Motor City Machine Guns, No Limit, Lethal Consequences, British Invasion, The Dudleys and Beer Money, Inc. yet TNA is a smaller company than WWE.

I think that is all I can say on the subject but I miss the days WWE had some entertaining tag teams, feuds and matches.
Those are 2 of the very few wrestlers I can actually enjoy wrestling, most of the time. Morrison is gonna get a push as a babyface this year, as for Shelton, despite his lack of charisma, he's been under used and under valued for ages.

Unfortunately, Vince doesn't care what the fans want, he only wants what's best for his company. Understandable sadly.

Apparently their gonna release a 'Rise and Fall of WCW' DVD. They approached Eric Bischoff to appear on it, he rejected the chance and rightly so.
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I think Shelton should take his career and do something with it quickly, he been in with the WWE for a long time now. That in itself you have to give him credit for because its a cut-throat company. But I remember something like 2 years ago when him and another wrestler (I think it was Carlito) were looking as though they were being given the push they deserved. He has more abiltiy that Cena and Cena was given a gimmick that people loved and hated, either way he going to become popular.
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You're only as good as the reaction you get.

I'm a big fan of Benjamin's wrestling ability, but many times he has come out and the crowd are just dead. No response.

I think it's a bit unfair to say WWE never does anything with him. They put him over HHH, Flair and he won a match against Orton in 2004. They have game him many titles. They have gave him matches where he can look great - Michaels in 2005. But Benjamin's problems thus far is that he doesn't know hoe to work the crowd, be it face or heel. If he could get that right, he'll be huge and WWE will have no choice but to recognise him.
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Old 04-05-2009, 20:38   #185
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Wouldn't it be a bit late though?

Also, did anyone spot the difference in Carlito's style? I
remember tuning in like a year ago he took my attention.
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You're only as good as the reaction you get.

I'm a big fan of Benjamin's wrestling ability, but many times he has come out and the crowd are just dead. No response.

I think it's a bit unfair to say WWE never does anything with him. They put him over HHH, Flair and he won a match against Orton in 2004. They have game him many titles. They have gave him matches where he can look great - Michaels in 2005. But Benjamin's problems thus far is that he doesn't know hoe to work the crowd, be it face or heel. If he could get that right, he'll be huge and WWE will have no choice but to recognise him.
Thats the problem though. The fans are dead for practically everyone except the main event wrestlers. Middle card wrestlers mean fuck all to fans these days. The kids in the arenas just want to see the Cena's, Batista's.
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Old 04-05-2009, 21:29   #187
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Wouldn't it be a bit late though?

Also, did anyone spot the difference in Carlito's style? I
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Too late for what? Aa Benjamin push? Nah, he's 33, so time is still on his side.

Not sure what difference you mean with Carlito. If you mean highflying, then he was doing similar moves in his last face run in 2006.

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Thats the problem though. The fans are dead for practically everyone except the main event wrestlers. Middle card wrestlers mean fuck all to fans these days. The kids in the arenas just want to see the Cena's, Batista's.
I agree 100%. That's why I don't think WWE can be blamed solely for some wretlers not being pushed. Bookers can put the wrestlers towards our attention, but it is fans attending to get them over by giving them a reaction.

It sucks what has happened to the mid card and tag division, but again, as a business, WWE is probably doing the right thing, by targeting the kids, as they are the ones who WWE make the most money from. It sucks for us old school fans, but that's just how it is at the moment.
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Apparently their gonna release a 'Rise and Fall of WCW' DVD. They approached Eric Bischoff to appear on it, he rejected the chance and rightly so.
I'm very glad he's not doing this - apparently he doesn't want to be part of WWE's infamous revisionist history. No doubt we'll get negative comments across the board, people commenting on stuff they have no idea about and Jim Ross generally being a fat repulsive cunt.

Regardless of what the WWE try and tell us, here's some simple facts:

1) Fuck the backstage politics (which were just as prominent in the WWF) - WCW up until March/April 1999 was fantastic.

2) From late-1992 to late-1994 and mid-1996 to early-1998 WCW was the better promotion.

3) If it wasn't for WCW you wouldn't have had the Attitude era.
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Old 06-05-2009, 16:30   #189
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Shit how come no one told me that the Shawn Michaels: Heartbreak and Triumph DVD includes the legendary unaired Main Event match where the Rockers win the titles from the Hart Foundation in two out of three falls, but it never counted for a variety of reasons, depending on which you believe? I'll have to get this now and try and add the match to my copy of Main Event 1990, it'd be nice to have the full event.
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Well some fat cunt called Buddy Rose died last week, but you wouldn't know him. Certainly you're right, a proper death we can all laugh at is long overdue. We should start a betting pool. My money's on Tugboat/Typhoon/Shockmaster/Fat Cunt.
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Why the fuck are Triple H and HBK the main feature of the cover of the Allied Powers: The World's Greatest Tag Teams DVD? They're weren't even a tag team until their shit reformation a couple of years back. It just sickens me, bullshit like this. Edge and Christian really shouldn't be on it either, ahead of Demolition, the Road Warriors, the Steiners, etc.
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The same feeling I got when I saw the cover of this years SvR game. Fair enough, there arent many great tag teams today, but those two hardly qualify to be the best in the WWE. I can only think that the little kids who will be looking to buy this will be scared by the looks of Demolition as they probably will have never seen them before.

But the actual show is decent enough but from what ive read, 'MnM' are presenting the whole DVD. But I still might get this.
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I won't get it as I have the matches worth seeing already. I wouldn't have even minded so much if they'd have put the Hardyz on the cover. The Rockers even. But DX is a joke.
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