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Old 07-12-2011, 19:37   #781
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Not only that but the tits are still out. The moment Kane started to expose more flesh it all went to shit.
Plus his sexual relationship with X-Pac.
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You know what, I'm tempted to vote for Mark Henry for Superstar of the Year. Simply because I can see Punk winning by quite a margin. So it'd be nice if once the results are announced, perhaps the poll is shown, and Henry comes in second, I'd quite like that.
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Plus his sexual relationship with X-Pac.
Well there was no return after this:

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I think overall, it's been a good year for the WWE. Sure it's wavered a little bit along the way. We are in a transition period afterall, but there's definitely light at the end of the tunnel.
This I can very much agree with. 2011 has been a massive year for WWE, with the obvious change in direction that creative are starting to go in. Last year it was getting to the stage where I almost got bored and stopped watching it, so it's nice that they've finally taken the time to try and acknowledge their post-puberty fanbase. Let's hope 2012 is even more badass.
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Links to CM Punk on radio just yesterday I believe, and it's quite good, particularly the second part I think:

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Did anyone see the person in the crowd at Raw (may have even been TLC actually) waving a box of the Fruity Pebbles with Cena on like the one above?

I just read this on WrestlingForum (via Grantland Blog) this morning, and it's a good read:

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March 14, 2004, was a day wrestling geeks will remember forever. It was WrestleMania XX at Madison Square Garden. Eddie Guerrero beat Kurt Angle to retain the WWE Championship1 and, in the last match of the night, Chris Benoit2 defeated Shawn Michaels and Triple H to win the World Heavyweight Championship. After Benoit's win, his real-life buddy Guerrero came out to the ring and the two champs celebrated together while confetti dropped from the rafters.

It was a momentous night not only because Guerrero and Benoit were the good-guy underdogs, but because they were favorites of the wrestling egghead commentariat. These fans — the Internet intelligentsia — understand the backstage workings that average fans don't get. They treasure the qualities that mainstream wrestling's decision-makers frequently overlook: charisma over size, in-ring work rate over physique. And, of course, they all consider themselves smarter than Vince McMahon and the brain trust in charge of WWE. Sometimes, they have a point.

Guerrero and Benoit were Internet darlings. They traveled through Japan and Mexico to hone their craft. They toiled in ECW to showcase their "real" wrestling styles as opposed to the hard-core brawls that ECW was known for. Back in those days, while the golden-tanned beefcakes of the WWF and WCW were broadcast to every cable TV household in America, Benoit and Guerrero were known only to the lucky few who stayed up late to watch ECW or to the guys who traded videocassettes of independent and foreign promotions. To name-check either of them was a sort of secret handshake for wrestling-fan purity, a gnostic cult growing in the shadow of the WWF's cartoonish product.

In hindsight, their fame was sort of a Pyrrhic victory. Benoit and Guerrero became legendary for precisely the same reason they hadn't yet become superstars: They didn't fit the mold. They were as highly skilled as they were undersized compared to most WWF wrestlers of the '90s (or most other decades, for that matter).3 They were great conveyors of emotion during their matches but, particularly in the case of Benoit, they weren't compelling actors in prematch promos. Neither had a face that could grace the cover of Tiger Beat.

Both aspired to a kind of greatness particular to diminutive grapplers — Benoit idolized The Dynamite Kid of British Bulldogs fame, and Guerrero grew up in a family of accomplished luchadores. But more than pedigree or ambition, what seemed to make Benoit and Guerrero great was the fact that they weren't given an easy path to stardom. They were both hired by WCW when, during the Monday Night Wars, WCW expanded their flagship show to three hours and needed talent to fill the time. Guerrero and Benoit were poached by the WWF after they overachieved in WCW. Even then, their ascent to the top of the card was never assured, and the paths they took there were anything but linear. Despite the fanfare that accompanied their signings, the WWF didn't seem eager to bet the bank on either of them.

This, then, is the core of the "smart" wrestling fan's adoration for Benoit, Guerrero, and their ilk: In an unreal world of fake rivalries, fake villains, and fake odds to be overcome, Benoit and Guerrero were real-life heroes who deserved success but were held back by the most dastardly foe imaginable: the establishment, guardians of the pro-wrestling status quo. When both men were pushed to the top in early 2004, they were beloved by the average fan because they were scripted to be underdog heroes, overcoming great odds to achieve their lifelong dreams. But at the same time, they were even more beloved by the smart fans because this was so unlikely. Benoit and Guerrero were never supposed to be scripted as the big winners in the first place.

That night in New York was at the forefront of the minds of many wrestling fans this past Sunday when the Tables, Ladders, and Chairs pay-per-view ended with CM Punk retaining the WWE Championship (in a great match against The Miz and Alberto Del Rio) just after Daniel Bryan pilfered the World Heavyweight Championship from the Big Show.4 To top it off, Zack Ryder opened the show by beating Dolph Ziggler for the U.S. Championship.

All three champions are Internet darlings. Bryan5 is probably most like a modern Benoit or Guerrero. He has wrestled all over the world, he achieved great success in the American indie scene, and he was widely regarded as the best wrestler in the world before he got the call-up from WWE — this despite being 5-foot-8 and under 200 pounds. When he was signed, smart fans were quick to praise WWE for seeing potential in so unlikely a specimen; they also bitterly predicted that Bryan would be misused by WWE for years to come. When Bryan was pitched as a legitimate mid-tier competitor (even though announcer Michael Cole endlessly derides him as a "nerd"), fans who assumed he would lose every match still couldn't rest easy. When he won the Money in the Bank briefcase and said he'd cash it in at WrestleMania, many fans interpreted it as a tease before the huge letdown to come. It felt like the more WWE projected Bryan as a legitimate wrestler, the more "smart" fans disbelieved it. They know the script, and Bryan isn't part of it.

Ryder, as much as he's lumped in with Bryan and Punk, is an entirely different animal. Ryder has been in WWE since 2006, first in a tag team with Curt Hawkins, then as the flamboyant, Jersey Shore-inspired Long Islander we know today. He made himself a home in the secondary realms of Smackdown, ECW (the WWE version), and Raw, before he was shunted aside into the netherworld of WWE Superstars.6 But Ryder took matters into his own hands, launching a wildly popular YouTube series and proclaiming himself the WWE's Internet Champion. The fans he earned eventually helped force him into television prominence. Once on TV, he was endorsed by John Cena, and, after Ryder began feuding with Ziggler, a mid-card match could rarely run to completion without the crowd chanting "We want Ryder!" Of course, that chant is semi-ironic; it's a critique of the WWE power structure as much as an endorsement of Ryder.

Punk, of course, is an outsider thrust into the unlikely role of messiah. He cemented his own ascendance in the past six months by demanding a spot at the top of the card and, once given it, proving that the implausible hero can succeed in a WWE that has always overvalued big muscles and outsize gimmickry. His feud with John Cena underscored the disparity between the former prototype7 and the new model that Punk represents. In a few short weeks, Punk made dissent to WWE's business as usual into a popular trend. The crowd went wild for Punk; "Cena sucks!" chants, which had been infiltrating WWE crowds for some time, suddenly became the norm — a measure of approval for Punk's new movement. Like the "We want Ryder!" chants, "Cena sucks!" isn't particularly literal so much as it is a rejection of the status quo.

Perhaps the most poignant aspect of Sunday's Tables, Ladders, and Chairs was the absence of John Cena. Even though Cena wasn't literally in the scene, however, his presence was felt. Cena had tried to interject himself into Sunday's title match, but he gave up his shot to give Ryder the fight with Ziggler. Even so, any savvy wrestling fan would have expected Cena to somehow butt into the championship match. But Sunday night came and went and Punk defeated two top-level baddies and Cena was nowhere to be found. It was the night of the underdog, not only because three unlikely stars won, but also because WWE's reigning comic book Übermensch had gone AWOL.

It's probably just coincidence, but last week, WWE started selling T-shirts that say — wait for it — CENA SUCKS. According to Cena, WWE had been interested in marketing them for some time now, and he finally agreed. The timing, however, suggests a broader movement toward reality — not the capital-R Reality of Punk's "Reality Era," but the real thing. It's an acknowledgement that there is a world bigger than the one WWE has constructed. WWE can't make something true simply by insisting upon it; they can't make Cena beloved by all any more than they can make it rain, or make a successful motion picture.

By keeping Cena off-screen during Sunday's PPV, WWE gave their rising underdogs a chance to shine. And lest it seem an anomaly, Monday's episode of Raw opened with Punk introducing himself, Ryder, and Bryan in the center of the ring. The sight of three celebrating champions was familiar, but these specific champions imbued the scene with freshness. When they entered the ring for their main event with Ziggler, Del Rio, and Miz, they came through the crowd. The show was in Philadelphia, and it was an obvious nod to ECW, but this was one nostalgic gesture from Punk that was so metaphorically loaded that it felt progressive instead of backward-looking. The meaning was simple: We are the counterculture; we are the new reality.

The biggest difference between 2004 and the present day is that the smart set of wrestling fans has outgrown the traditional mob of credulous marks (insomuch as those folks ever really existed). Thanks to the Internet and the shift toward "reality" that ECW pioneered in the 1990s, there is no more dividing line between the guileless fan who roots for scripted heroes and the know-it-all who roots for wrestling outsiders like Benoit, Guerrero, and Punk.

As a reader named Matt Malone wrote to me a couple of weeks ago: "At this point, 'smarter fans' are so in tune with what's going on backstage that we know that the real adversity in professional wrestling comes from superstars overcoming what's going on backstage, not beating the other guy in the ring. If Zack Ryder wins the U.S. Championship it won't be a triumph over Dolph Ziggler, it will be a triumph over the backstage powers that held him down for years." Their successes are no longer measures of what they've overcome, storyline-wise, but what they've overcome in reality. That WWE is now acknowledging this is reassuring and necessary, because what's really at stake is the nature of our viewing relationship with wrestling.

WWE accomplished something powerful on Monday. Raw ended with Punk, Ryder, and Bryan — three atypical heroes — standing tall in the ring, belts held high. Without resorting to a worked shoot to shoehorn the real world into its product, WWE took real-life adversity and allowed it to play out within the context of wrestling's bizarre unreality. This isn't "Reality" — it's pro wrestling as postmodern art. And it's exactly what we need.

Here's a little postmodern irony: Those CENA SUCKS shirts I mentioned before? Despite the fact that Punk cemented the audience's anti-Cena sentiment, Cena is the one who'll be collecting the royalties from their sales. Talk about commodifying dissent. And really, that's fine. If the rich are going to get richer, at least the poor are getting camera time.
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I came across this website, and they create amazing WWE wallpapers on a regular basis. I must have spent a bit of time this evening (inbetween doing things) going through a few of their pages, and saving many wallpapers. I'll be using them for sure - as part of an automatic rotation (so they change every 2 hours).

Here are a few of my favourites - with the links to the many different sizes just a bit further down the page. You'll also notice a tab towards the top of the pages and a little to the right titled 'Wallpapers' - just click this to look at all of the different wallpapers, flicking back through the pages. But anyway, a few of my favourites:

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I'll let you guys explore the rest though, and enjoy yourselves when you flick through them.
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No worries brother.

Hopefully you enjoy looking at them. I've only just found out about the site, but I'll be using them from now on I think. They release wallpapers for the upcoming PPVs too, so I'll be downloading the Royal Rumble PPV wallpaper for sure to help hype me up further for it!

Here are all of the WWE wallpapers I'll be using in rotation - I wasn't going to put them into use for a few days yet given it's still the Christmas period, but given I've received a few wrestling related Christmas gifts, the WWE wallpapers still feel festive enough to me - so they're being implemented now I think!

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I'll make sure I bookmark the page. you see I dont use my laPtop much these days due to the numbness on me hands.
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I've been thinking about ways in which the WWE can improve the product.

One way in which they can do so I believe, is by reintroducing 'Time Limit' matches. They had one on Smackdown a few weeks back involving Randy Orton, which he won in the dying seconds. With there being a time limit to this particular match, the crowd were on their feet for the last couple of minutes - in sheer desperation, hoping that Orton would pull off the victory. The crowd were quite excited when he did indeed manage to do so with just 2 seconds to spare I believe. The WWE Universe felt the same desperation and pressure that Randy himself will have done to an extent, and could relate somewhat, hence why they were so engrossed in the match.

But 'Time Limit matches' could also help to protect the Superstars as well. Instead of having interference, count outs, DQs and roll up victories frequently, the wrestlers could battle it out more often, leading to draws due to the time limit expiring. It could then enhance certain stories, and showcase mutual respect being earned between particular competitors. What it could also do, is help lead up to a PPV match in which there would actually be a winner once and for all.

What gave me this thought was simply watching the Hart Foundation vs. Killer Bees in early 1986 at Madison Square Garden. Not only was it a truly brilliant Tag Team match (take note WWE), but there was a time limit included.

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The modern day wrestling fan doesn't have the knowledge or patience to watch time limit matches. They'd have to be 10 minutes at most.
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