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Old 05-05-2009, 12:15   #16
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Cornell's new album :faceplm:

I admire him moving in new directions, but this is a slap in the face for all fans of anything he's done prior. It's good that his voice is so diverse that it sounds great in any style, but to me he will always be one of the great rock singers.

There's just no excuse for working with Timbaland. Bad move.
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Cornell's new album :faceplm:

I admire him moving in new directions, but this is a slap in the face for all fans of anything he's done prior. It's good that his voice is so diverse that it sounds great in any style, but to me he will always be one of the great rock singers.

There's just no excuse for working with Timbaland. Bad move.
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hmm I'm not exactly sure how succesful the album has been - he just fancied a self indulgent fueled musical adventure, which I don't approve of, but will always respect his music because of what's been.

People are saying that he's a sell out, but I'm not sure that's the case.
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He's not a sell out, he just doesn't give a fuck what anyone else thinks and does what he pleases.
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True. I respect that definately - it takes balls. Certainly aren't enjoying the results though - not that I was particularly meant to I suppose.
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He's nowhere near as talented as people like to make out.
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Fair comment but at least name some more talented singer/songwriters to back it up...
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Fair comment but at least name some more talented singer/songwriters to back it up...
Page Hamilton
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Ken Andrews
Maynard James Keenan
Mark Armine
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Zack de la Rocha (:faceplm

Even Daniel Johns stands a good chance.
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Thanks for educating me on some of those. I'll give them a listen. Can't deny that Cornell's voice is pure talent though? From what I've heard of who you mentioned, is that fair to say they are quite soundgarden influenced?
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Thanks for educating me on some of those. I'll give them a listen. Can't deny that Cornell's voice is pure talent though? From what I've heard of who you mentioned, is that fair to say they are quite soundgarden influenced?
Not really no.

Jason Watkins (Mouth of the Architect) is the hard end of post-metal. Mark Armine (Rosetta) is the melodic end and Aaron Turner (ISIS) have been all over the shop. Prefer their earlier, heavier stuff like Celestial and the early EPs The Red Sea and Mosquito Control. When Turner tries to do slightly more melodic stuff he doesn't come off too well. I doubt you'll like any of this stuff. Aspects of post-metal concentrate on minimal-to-no vocals although it isn't a necessary prerequisite.

Ken Andrews (Failure/ON/Year of the Rabbit) is much more mainstream, Page Hamilton (Helmet) was all about songs wirtten in drop D and with strange time signatures and, like Aaron Turner, is better at the harder end vocally.

Maynard James Keenan (Tool) is clearly the best singer of the lot. Absolutely amazing voice and he's written some fantastic songs in his time albeit I get bored of Tool more quickly than any of the others mentioned here bar ON and Year of the Rabbit.

Obviously not to everyone's liking but I've never been a fan of Cornell's abilities.
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Not really no.

Jason Watkins (Mouth of the Architect) is the hard end of post-metal. Mark Armine (Rosetta) is the melodic end and Aaron Turner (ISIS) have been all over the shop. Prefer their earlier, heavier stuff like Celestial and the early EPs The Red Sea and Mosquito Control. When Turner tries to do slightly more melodic stuff he doesn't come off too well. I doubt you'll like any of this stuff. Aspects of post-metal concentrate on minimal-to-no vocals although it isn't a necessary prerequisite.

Ken Andrews (Failure/ON/Year of the Rabbit) is much more mainstream, Page Hamilton (Helmet) was all about songs wirtten in drop D and with strange time signatures and, like Aaron Turner, is better at the harder end vocally.

Maynard James Keenan (Tool) is clearly the best singer of the lot. Absolutely amazing voice and he's written some fantastic songs in his time albeit I get bored of Tool more quickly than any of the others mentioned here bar ON and Year of the Rabbit.

Obviously not to everyone's liking but I've never been a fan of Cornell's abilities.
Have you listened to Soundgarden's early stuff? Louder than Love etc? Much different to the likes of their watered down Black Hole Sun era. Just listening to Helmet and it's certainly not a million miles away.
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Have you listened to Soundgarden's early stuff? Louder than Love etc? Much different to the likes of their watered down Black Hole Sun era. Just listening to Helmet and it's certainly not a million miles away.
I'll give it a try. Usually his vocals have me climbing the walls but it could quite easily be case of having come across the wrong songs.
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I'll give it a try. Usually his vocals have me climbing the walls but it could quite easily be case of having come across the wrong songs.
well if you're not a fan of the voice then it might not do you any good to listen haha. Try it though.
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Right Kev, listened to the whole of Louder Than Love and whilst some of the songs are good, the thing that stops them being ones I'd keep is....his voice! I'm just not a fan of it. Whilst I'm on it, I also dislike the vocals of Mike Patton although I've got the Faith No More track Last Cup of Sorrow.
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