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Old 15-10-2009, 20:30   #61
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You could say the same about a few on here and Fifa mate.

Thats what winds me up. Reviewers get criticised for not giving it a chance when the review scores are not favourable yet no one is prepared to let Fifa grow on them in here and a few other pes forums. i'd say Fifa has just about as much adjustment/learning curve/period as Pes when you play manually but no ones really prepared to give it a go. Its like people just pick up the controller and immediately don't like it.
This is very true. However, I personally didn't really find there to be any real 'adjustment period' between Fifa 09 and Fifa 10. I was able to pretty much pick up with 10 where i left with 09. I guess that's because EA chose to play it safe and just stick with its winning formula from 09 and just made minor changes. Kind of like with PES5 and PES6.

I just can't get into the single player modes in Fifa, i don't know why. I didn't even finish a single season in manager mode on 09. This is why i'm eager for PES to return to form, the master league used to drag me in for hours at a time. The signs are looking good from what i've played/seen so far anyway.


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Old 15-10-2009, 21:55   #62
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Frown PES 2010 review

I am really shocked that pes 2010 is not getting good reviews. Seabass is really going to have to get his act together. I have bought every pes game and I was really looking forward to the reviews but they are all saying pes 2010 hasnt really changed from last year. I am seriously thinking of not buying it now. Will they ever learn that the last 2 versions of pes were not up to the high standard of other konami games like mgs. A really really really dispointed fan.
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Old 15-10-2009, 22:21   #63
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This is very true. However, I personally didn't really find there to be any real 'adjustment period' between Fifa 09 and Fifa 10. I was able to pretty much pick up with 10 where i left with 09. I guess that's because EA chose to play it safe and just stick with its winning formula from 09 and just made minor changes. Kind of like with PES5 and PES6.

I just can't get into the single player modes in Fifa, i don't know why. I didn't even finish a single season in manager mode on 09. This is why i'm eager for PES to return to form, the master league used to drag me in for hours at a time. The signs are looking good from what i've played/seen so far anyway.
In my opinion, PES6 was a drastic let down compared with 5, and where the series began to go wrong, I think 5 was the peak, with all other games falling either side. It's also my opinion that FIFA is too limited a game to require as much of an 'adjustment period'. There is much more variety in PES, although much less than there used to be.

-IGN's review seems extremely short sighted, and written by someone who doesn't really know his PES... something like 'Bad keepers have been a tradition in the game' ... most previous iterations, particularly 5, had very well programed keepers... it's only really 09 & 08 that have had poor keepers, indicating that its not tradition, but Seabass's recent shoddery. (Keepers weren't exactly brill on 3).
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Old 16-10-2009, 08:58   #64
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Who feels that some of the reviews are exceedingly harsh? I don't think it deserves an awesome rating or anything. I think an 8ish is fair and 7 just seems really harsh.

The videogamer review makes a really silly comment near the top. The guy said Pes has always been known for sluggish and unresponsive players. Say what?
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Old 16-10-2009, 23:25   #65
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I played the FIFA 10 demo and the PES 10 demo, I can't believe people think FIFA looks better, based on the demos PES just looks great and FIFA looks OK?!. (look at the back of the players, the numbers and names are too large for the kits, common:faceplm I cannot understand why PES is always so underrated and everybody praises FIFA. PES is a feeling of joy, while fifa is so fake and plastic. I play alot of PES with my friends, the variation of situations in PES is so large and satisfying. We laugh, we also laugh if the keeper fails, it's just so funny sometimes.
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Old 17-10-2009, 00:39   #66
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I think it's really tight graphics wise. Fifa looks and moves fantastic from wide camera but yea it's so ugly up close. Ugly kits, unproportionate cartoony looking player models, bad faces. I skip the cut scenes every chance I get.

Pes is of course amazing up close but when it's in motion from afar it pales in comparison to Fifa. Cut scenes are really worth watching though and add to the immersive experience.
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Old 17-10-2009, 21:07   #67
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The problem is, I bet many reviewers go in looking at the licenses/teams PES has compared to FIFA and it already puts them in a place to knock a few points off.

Not to mention the fact that there's not too many reviewers who've been happy with the menu presentation for years.

Then again, fans of the game would admit they're a bit shit. They're pretty awful in FIFA too, considering they've kept the same layout for about 3 years.
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Old 17-10-2009, 21:10   #68
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I played the FIFA 10 demo and the PES 10 demo, I can't believe people think FIFA looks better, based on the demos PES just looks great and FIFA looks OK?!. (look at the back of the players, the numbers and names are too large for the kits, common:faceplm I cannot understand why PES is always so underrated and everybody praises FIFA. PES is a feeling of joy, while fifa is so fake and plastic. I play alot of PES with my friends, the variation of situations in PES is so large and satisfying. We laugh, we also laugh if the keeper fails, it's just so funny sometimes.
Yeah that's one of the things i love about pes. That it actually makes you laugh sometimes even if your own keeper makes a big mistake. At least i do
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Old 17-10-2009, 21:57   #69
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Am I the only one who is wondering about how magazines did vote the last Pro Evolution Titles compared to PES10? Pro Evolution Soccer 08, the most worse Pro Evolution Soccer on consoles ever, mainly because of performance problems, did get best ratings everywhere. Pro Evolution Soccer 09 was rated at about the same amount of PES 08 and even higher at several magazines.

Now PES10 is about to be released and gets ratings that are worser than the PES08 once, I wonder how this is possible as there were only be "improvements" compared to the last two titles. When I compare FIFA10 to FIFA09 I do not see that much difference.

I think it depens on how much advertising the mag or internetdomain has. If it has advertising about FIFA they rate it good to have a good "relationship" to EA... A magazine is nothing else but a business company. So I guess the one who is paying more gets their opinions... and we all know who is paying more...

When someone would give me 5.000 Euros for saying that I love Fifa and use the PES10 Disc to rub of the ice of my cars glasses... I would say it...
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Old 18-10-2009, 14:05   #70
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well news of the world has given a good review for pes TODAY. 8.5/10

still waiting for gamespot review, hopefully they will do a video review.
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Old 19-10-2009, 08:02   #71
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Wenb's review is pretty much spot on and very in depth. They scored it 8/10.
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Old 19-10-2009, 09:03   #72
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well news of the world has given a good review for pes TODAY. 8.5/10

still waiting for gamespot review, hopefully they will do a video review.
i wouldn't trust any review off gamespot... especially since they where found out to be taking backhanders for favourable reviews

its also funny how eurogamer when they reviewed fifa.. the same day they had a big advert for fifa 10 on their site
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Old 19-10-2009, 10:38   #73
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GameCentral gave it 7/10.

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Old 19-10-2009, 17:23   #74
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i wouldn't trust any review off gamespot... especially since they where found out to be taking backhanders for favourable reviews

its also funny how eurogamer when they reviewed fifa.. the same day they had a big advert for fifa 10 on their site

i can belive that , funny tho . For example KILLZONE 2 given a 9
and the guy in the video review said GET THIS GAME NOW

played it ... sold it .. and never took COD 5 out of the ps3 again.
the gameplay was atrocious
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Old 22-10-2009, 23:59   #75
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Wow, some of you sound like a spouse who's partner is cheating, and whilst everyone is trying to tell them, they just won't believe it.

I can't believe there are conspiracy theorists trying to put some spin on it as if the reviewers are somehow corrupt or something similar. Wake up for god's sake. Don't be so bloody sad.

I've been hoping for PES to pull a blinder as much as anyone out there. I'd have liked nothing more than to have gone to metacritic and read a load of top notch reviews, but after playing the demo I wasn't really expecting to, to be honest.

I didn't think I'd be saying this anytime soon, but Fifa is better than Pro Evo in every way, except maybe the close ups, and who cares about them?
That's the way it is. konami need to do so much better, because where Pro used to be the game of substance versus Fifa's style and licenses, pro evo now looks like a shabby arcade game in comparison.

The reviewers have always been fair in the large part. Pro has always been ahead of Fifa, despite EA's deeper pockets.

Metacritic gets all the reviews and gives an average score. here's how pro has done over the years.

On PS2

Pes 1 93%
Pes 2: 93%
pes 3 92%
pes 4 91%
Pes 5 92%

Next gen: xbox 360

Pes 6 79%
pes 08 76%
pes 09 74%

pes 10... so far.... 77%

Not good enough. But certainly fair. Maybe even generous in some instances. I won't be buying it anyway.


Fifa 10 is going to be the first Fifa game I've bought since I was a kid with a Megadrive.

That's some pretty bad form from Konami.
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