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Old 08-12-2015, 15:13   #31
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Fair points.


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Old 09-12-2015, 11:51   #32
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I don't like Fifa one bit but i'v got to be honest the keepers in Fifa are much better than PES. Why can't PES do the same as them.
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Old 10-12-2015, 18:20   #33
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Yadi yada ...

... backline this .... varied formation that ... it's how you play this ... it's what you're doing wrong that.... yak yak ...blah blah ....at the end of the days it's all shite.

The bottom line is if the AI turns on the script for you to concede you concede, if the AI turns on the script for your team to play like buffoons then they play like buffoons it's as simple as that and its something you either accept or don't and stop playing.

The preventative advice regarding tactics and changes people need to make to their game do is pure nonsense - doesn't mean a thing (in relation to the above). That's the biggest problem - that and the fact so many stupid people exist.
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Old 10-12-2015, 19:28   #34
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I feel your pain, but there is a solution better than upgrading all goalkeepers. Lets not kidd ourselfs, playing with AI is boring as hell. On Top player players are retarded, cant hold the ball, but still manage to pass the ball on the wing and often score. Superstar was never fun for me and I cant understand how enyone can enjoy it. As someone mentioned before AI plays ping pong as scores, players hold the ball forever, which causes frustration.

Here is a solution. I dont know how many of you uses Pes Galaxy patch, but it contains certain game mode called Yair gameplay. Playing with the patch changes the game, and makes it more enjoyable, real life like. AI holds the ball better, and so are you. Defending is much easier, and I havent felt like I was cheated by scripting. Ball physics is slightly different, IMO better. I played only two games, and concieded once, which was completly my fault. On top of that patch offers camera customization. Here is one screenshot. https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...11396195_o.jpg As you can see - whole pitch view, that could be misteaken for TV Broadcast, if only my resolution was better. As for match statistics https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...78222812_o.jpg
Goalkepper made some saves, score was only 1:0, and it was 15 minutes game. AI made 13 tackles, which is many for Pes. I think I even saw some skills. Its hard to tell about it, its more like sensation of participating in real football game, maybe its not that great, for all, but I enjoyed that 2 matches as I never did in any Pes. Both games was on Top player, as I said I never liked Superstar, just couldnt play the way I like.
I dont know if you can use that patch for PS4, or Xbox, but its a solution for PC gamers.
Online matches are just awful, I think many would agree, its no longer game of football, more like game of thoughball, so I understand that many of you is looking for entertainment in Master League etc. So try that you just might like it.
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Old 10-12-2015, 19:31   #35
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btw, earlier today, before using this mode, I played F.A Cup. In two legs AI scored against me 3 times, and eliminated me. Yeah you guessed, 3 shots on target. I know how that feels.
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Old 10-12-2015, 22:52   #36
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I feel your pain, but there is a solution better than upgrading all goalkeepers. Lets not kidd ourselfs, playing with AI is boring as hell. On Top player players are retarded, cant hold the ball, but still manage to pass the ball on the wing and often score. Superstar was never fun for me and I cant understand how enyone can enjoy it. As someone mentioned before AI plays ping pong as scores, players hold the ball forever, which causes frustration.

Here is a solution. I dont know how many of you uses Pes Galaxy patch, but it contains certain game mode called Yair gameplay. Playing with the patch changes the game, and makes it more enjoyable, real life like. AI holds the ball better, and so are you. Defending is much easier, and I havent felt like I was cheated by scripting. Ball physics is slightly different, IMO better. I played only two games, and concieded once, which was completly my fault. On top of that patch offers camera customization. Here is one screenshot. https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...11396195_o.jpg As you can see - whole pitch view, that could be misteaken for TV Broadcast, if only my resolution was better. As for match statistics https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...78222812_o.jpg
Goalkepper made some saves, score was only 1:0, and it was 15 minutes game. AI made 13 tackles, which is many for Pes. I think I even saw some skills. Its hard to tell about it, its more like sensation of participating in real football game, maybe its not that great, for all, but I enjoyed that 2 matches as I never did in any Pes. Both games was on Top player, as I said I never liked Superstar, just couldnt play the way I like.
I dont know if you can use that patch for PS4, or Xbox, but its a solution for PC gamers.
Online matches are just awful, I think many would agree, its no longer game of football, more like game of thoughball, so I understand that many of you is looking for entertainment in Master League etc. So try that you just might like it.
Since you mentioned how anyone can enjoy the superstar difficulty, I question how anyone can enjoy a difficulty below that. Some people are just not as good as others.
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Old 10-12-2015, 23:12   #37
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Lol

I can beat Superstar, no problem. I just dont like playing on this difficulty. Why? As I said before, ping pong passing, domination with posession (I have nothing against AI keeping the ball, but not on their own half, so I couldnt get it, without breaking my formation and leaving wings free). Other thing, if I play on Superstar I have to go forward all the time, passes through, long balls. Thats not really my style, I like play the ball around, dribble, just enjoy the game. AI is no competition to me, and most people online also are not very good. But thats a video game, for me its about having fun, not winning. Try to keep the ball 60-70% on superstar or in online game, doing something creative - Impossible. With this patch I was talkin about in my previeous post I might try superstar though, since I concieded one goal today. With couple of games in I noticed Ai trying to find the top corner, but it failed, also defensive wall jumps up when you shoot from free-kick.
7 saves from AI last game, I must be dreaming
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Old 10-12-2015, 23:35   #38
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I can beat Superstar, no problem. I just dont like playing on this difficulty. Why? As I said before, ping pong passing, domination with posession (I have nothing against AI keeping the ball, but not on their own half, so I couldnt get it, without breaking my formation and leaving wings free). Other thing, if I play on Superstar I have to go forward all the time, passes through, long balls. Thats not really my style, I like play the ball around, dribble, just enjoy the game. AI is no competition to me, and most people online also are not very good. But thats a video game, for me its about having fun, not winning. Try to keep the ball 60-70% on superstar or in online game, doing something creative - Impossible. With this patch I was talkin about in my previeous post I might try superstar though, since I concieded one goal today. With couple of games in I noticed Ai trying to find the top corner, but it failed, also defensive wall jumps up when you shoot from free-kick.
7 saves from AI last game, I must be dreaming
Well, I scored a lot of goals, no problem with having fun in it, actually I like the challenge, playing a lower difficulty isn't fun for me. The top player difficulty is fun in ML because it changes in some games, but an exhibition match, superstar is the way to go.

The fact that people still talk about ping pong as a negative or as a thing, makes me question if these people even watch football, because the big or good teams with good players usually have the easy going passes, and they do far less mistakes than any other lower team. The fact that people wants to see a lot of missing passes, makes me think, they just want it easy for themselves. Not to forget the nonsense that people say about how it's not fair for the AI to have a lot of possession, and then ask for a harder difficulty. What the hell do you expect the higher difficulty to be? Either ways, people love to just complain about this nonsense because they want to feel better about themselves. Reality is, it's just like the real football, you don't expect some of the things to happen in a match but it happens, do people shout it's scripted. Don't tell me it's just a game, people asked for realistic gameplay, and this is the closest I ever seen a game tries to be.
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Old 11-12-2015, 00:03   #39
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I know what you mean. I Understand that in real football is lot of passing in the back, but the thing is football game is 90 minutes long, Pes game is mostly 10-15 minutes, I dont enjoy watching AI passing the ball in their own half for 5 minutes out of ten, sometimes more. There is a problem that AI is programmed to get in my half, and then score, simple as that. And it has 3 maybe 4 ways to do it, computer isnt creative at all, possesion game reads as piss of opponent, let him chase you trying to get the ball on your half. I just finished match on Superstar, and here are the stats https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15912485_o.jpg you can imagine how it looked, you propably had many of these games. You dominate, but not in posession, 5 minutes of time wasting by AI, then one minute on my half, and 4 minutes of me going forward. Other than that there isnt much of a difference between these levels. Maybe I just dont have the patience for it.
I know Top player is not challenging, but set speed on -2, lower your pace, and pass the ball on opponent half, just go easy. Like Bayern or Barcelona, after all these are the best team in the world right know, and I enjoy watching them, how they play with weaker sides (almost every team in their leagues). Try some fluid formations, change tactics (Im not saying you not doing that, just an advice for people who read this thread). Everyone play the way he likes, there are propably people who set game speed on +2
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I know what you mean. I Understand that in real football is lot of passing in the back, but the thing is football game is 90 minutes long, Pes game is mostly 10-15 minutes, I dont enjoy watching AI passing the ball in their own half for 5 minutes out of ten, sometimes more. There is a problem that AI is programmed to get in my half, and then score, simple as that. And it has 3 maybe 4 ways to do it, computer isnt creative at all, possesion game reads as piss of opponent, let him chase you trying to get the ball on your half. I just finished match on Superstar, and here are the stats https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15912485_o.jpg you can imagine how it looked, you propably had many of these games. You dominate, but not in posession, 5 minutes of time wasting by AI, then one minute on my half, and 4 minutes of me going forward. Other than that there isnt much of a difference between these levels. Maybe I just dont have the patience for it.
I know Top player is not challenging, but set speed on -2, lower your pace, and pass the ball on opponent half, just go easy. Like Bayern or Barcelona, after all these are the best team in the world right know, and I enjoy watching them, how they play with weaker sides (almost every team in their leagues). Try some fluid formations, change tactics (Im not saying you not doing that, just an advice for people who read this thread). Everyone play the way he likes, there are propably people who set game speed on +2
If you want less passes then you need a faster speed game. Since -2 speed game obviously is not for that purpose, it's supposed to be slow and more careful/realistic, if that's not what you want you shouldn't play in that speed. What I'm sensing is that you want to have a faster pace game with less passes to the back, if that's so, stay with Zero or go above. I'm using -1 much better and more fair or balanced to me. I didn't try -2 because it might be too slow for me which is not what I'm asking, I'm happy with -1.
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If you want less passes then you need a faster speed game. Since -2 speed game obviously is not for that purpose, it's supposed to be slow and more careful/realistic, if that's not what you want you shouldn't play in that speed. What I'm sensing is that you want to have a faster pace game with less passes to the back, if that's so, stay with Zero or go above. I'm using -1 much better and more fair or balanced to me. I didn't try -2 because it might be too slow for me which is not what I'm asking, I'm happy with -1.
Im using -1 too. Its perfectly balanced between dynamic and slow. 0 feel unrealistic to me, -2 is little bit like slow motion, doesnt feel natural.

edit: I dont know why I said -2, my mistake.
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Old 18-12-2015, 06:02   #42
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To Sportgamefan: MANY people have reported this low corner shot 'spam' including youtubers such as The True Brits. So many people with lots of footy game experience are highlighting this flaw.
I've never known a football game to be so lacking in terms of CPU goal variety! I've only been successfully 'chipped' a couple of times, the rest of the CPU's goals have been slotted, low shots, that go towards either of the bottom corners of the net.

It just seems so cheap and cynical.
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