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Old 06-12-2007, 11:29   #31
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Sweey, I'll be buying the 8800GT itself. I've got a question in mind though. After how many years would I need to change a graphics card then? Because spending roughly 160 bucks on a graphics card and needing to get another one after a year would be rather silly.
Make sure its the 512MB version.

The card should last a couple of years to be honest. The G92 architecture 8800GTS is being released now and early reviews show that it only just outperforms the GT which is a let down in respect of what people were hoping for.

Personally I'm still waiting for February's release of the 9 series but the rumour amongst consumers is that the 9800GT and GTS are going to be minor tweaks of their G92 architecture 8800 counterparts. That being the case, you wouldn't be going too far wrong with the 8800GT and ATi's inability to truly challenge the 8800GTX and Ultra means that nVidia aren't being rushed into producing more powerful graphics cards.


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Old 06-12-2007, 11:51   #32
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Yeah, thanks for the heads up man.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:40   #33
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nVidia GeForce 9800GX2

Yesterday Tom's Hardware, found pictures of the new G92 architecture graphics card from nVidia.

That's how it looks like:










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We know that the 9800GX2 has 2 printed circuit boards (PCBs), as did the 7950GX2 in its time, two graphics processing units (GPUs) using 65 nm nodes (most likely G92s with 128 stream processors), 1 GB of memory (512 MB for each GPU) and two DVI outputs.

We don't know yet if the GeForce 9800GX2, which is supposed to be 30% faster than the 8800 Ultra, will support Quad SLI configurations.

The expected price: around $449 US. Expected announcement date: February 14, 2008.
I'm so glad my EN8800GT isn't so big. It is only a slot big, that's one of the reasons I love it!

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Old 07-01-2008, 21:35   #34
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The supposed "real" D9E (G100) specs of forthcoming nVidia cards:

55nm
~1800 transistors
DirectX-10.1
650 MHz core clock
1000 MHz memory clock
512-bit memory bandwidth
1024 MiB GDDR3
384 shader processors

The 9800GX2 (don't buy one!) is a G92 the same as an 8800GT but GX2's are two cards plonked together on one board which run as a single card unless a game is written for SLi - and as far as I'm concerned SLi isn't worth it. The 9800GTX which I likely won't buy (I never go for the absolute best card due to the relatively short life-span) is rumoured to be G100 but with the GX2 coming in Feb/Mar I'm not sure quite when the 9800GTX is meant to be arriving - and nobody is certain it'll be G100. Hmmmm.

The 512-bit memory bandwidth sounds lovely as does the 1GB memory.
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Old 08-01-2008, 05:38   #35
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I'll stick with my 8800GT for quite a while. I don't think there's much difference with the actual high-end GeForce cards and 9800GX2, .
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Old 08-02-2008, 15:34   #36
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That is a very good deal. Anyone looking for a new graphics card, I'd say go for it! http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/14274...b-256bit-gddr/
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The new GeForce 9600GT is out. Looks like it has a great price to performance ratio and makes the 256MB 8800GT a useless buy.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=2491

Here's the XFX version of the card. Methinks the box looks sexy.
http://www.hardwarezone.com/news/vie...id=10028&cid=6
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Old 23-02-2008, 19:01   #38
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Ive just bought a new DELL XPS420 with a 8800 gt card, its great BUT playing pes 6 with vista there TERRIBLE screen tearing. Forcing Vsync to `on` makes no diffrerence. Does anyone know how to solve this? is it a vista or driver issue and will it be rectified with SP1? thanks for your help
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Old 24-02-2008, 05:46   #39
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Am I seeing things, mrbob7, or did I not say the 256MB 8800GT?

P.S: I own the 512 MB 8800GT.
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I have no idea what your are seeing. I own the 512mb GT
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This really isn't the place for your question to be completely fair but I can't think of any solution other than changing your monitor's refresh rate.

Back on the intended topic in-hand, nVidia continue to release their 9-series cards with the 9800GX2 on March 11. It is essentially two 512MB 8800GT's together which act as a single card for games not written for SLi and obviously as a 2-in-1 solution for SLi games. In late March the 9800GTX will be released (believed to be an overclocked 512MB 8800GTS) followed by the 9800GT in early April. Nobody is impressed.

Those of us who didn't buy an 8800GTX or Ultra when they were first released are now eating our words as they almost certainly remain on top into the second half of this year, two years after their release which is virtually unheard of.
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Old 25-02-2008, 15:29   #42
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a 8800 gt card, its great BUT playing pes 6 with vista there TERRIBLE
I said that because I thought you responded to my initial post with that. I understood after seeing the thread you made.

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Back on the intended topic in-hand, nVidia continue to release their 9-series cards with the 9800GX2 on March 11. It is essentially two 512MB 8800GT's together which act as a single card for games not written for SLi and obviously as a 2-in-1 solution for SLi games. In late March the 9800GTX will be released (believed to be an overclocked 512MB 8800GTS) followed by the 9800GT in early April. Nobody is impressed.

Those of us who didn't buy an 8800GTX or Ultra when they were first released are now eating our words as they almost certainly remain on top into the second half of this year, two years after their release which is virtually unheard of.
Nobody in general, but, I am! I'm fucking glad there aren't any major changes or I'd wave goodbye to playing games on high settings.


How about making a 'Electronic Advice thread' and indexing most if not all of the problems listed in this thread. I'm well aware it is huge task but if everyone gave a hand, the job could be done. It will be much easier for people to search.
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Old 08-03-2008, 21:27   #43
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25/02:

Don't you mean indexing the problems from the Electronic Problem thread? :>

If someone wants to do it and then PM or email me with it all done, that'd be good. I've been meaning to sort out a few things as I've had three or four instances where I've not been able to find an old post and therefore had to type for ten minutes to walk someone through all potential fixes to a problem they're having. Not fun.

08/03:

Goodbye PhysX hardware:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=6157&Itemid=1

Not a shock.
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Not a surprise really. Why would a gamer want a PhysX card when he has a dual/quad core that does the job pretty well.

If we were still in the ages of single core processors, I think it might have worked.

EDIT: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...6162&Itemid=65

That cooler on the MSI 9600GT would help for some good overclocking.
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Not a surprise really. Why would a gamer want a PhysX card when he has a dual/quad core that does the job pretty well.

If we were still in the ages of single core processors, I think it might have worked.
Jesus, a slight lack of knowledge there

The processor does not do the physics calculations as quickly as a graphics card will. Graphics cards have/will have GDDR3, GDDR4 and GDDR5 RAM which can/will be used to perform the task. It is more a case of the seperate PhysX cards being too costly when they were launched and not enough games taking advantage of them in any case. Graphics cards will integrate physics processing removing the requirement for a seperate physics-only card.

nVidia bought AGEIA and have now put an end to their products. This will ensure that physics are dealt with in the way nVidia have always intended - with a PPU (physics processing unit) on the GPU. The downside is that without sufficient bandwidth the graphics card will not be able to do its present job quickly enough as the same bandwidth will be used for physics calculations.

Whether we like it or not, this is the direction in which graphics cards are heading. It is also why we've now seen three-way SLi motherboards...two graphics cards used in SLi and a third, dedicated to physics, joining them

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That cooler on the MSI 9600GT would help for some good overclocking.
Not a top-end gaming card though so still not worth buying for games unless money is tight. In fact, even then it may be better to go for an 8800.

20/03:

The 9800GX2 has been released. Its performance really doesn't make it a worthwhile purchase due to the ridiculous price of it.

The 9800GTX which everyone is waiting for has been moved back a week - to April 1st! That card will tell everyone a lot...are the 9 series cards really all going to be recycled 8 series architecture maxed out or do they actually have a serious advantage to them?

ATi are also lowering the price of their 3870 cards with some believing this is a move aimed at clearing old chips before they release their R700 architecture.

23/03:

I've just seen the official specs for one of the 9800GTX cards and there is so little increase from previous cards that this should be considered a non-event as expected

Hopefully AMD/ATi will bring out their next big thing soon AND it puts a fire under nVidia because if not, we're going to be waiting a long time for improved graphics cards.

02/04:

The Geforce 9800GTX came out yesterday. Really not worth purchasing for anyone using an 8800GTX, GTS or GT. Rumours are that a 9900GTX and GX2 will be released in two or three months. I never buy a GTX as I don't game at over 1680x1050 and my PSU doesn't have two six-pin power connectors. I've had a GX2 before and frankly its too expensive for what it provides - SLi support but only in SLi-enabled games...which isn't enough games. I await the next GT or GTS.

10/04:

Graphics card "league table" as at mid-March:

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9800GX2
HD3870 X2
8800Ultra
8800GTX
8800GTS 512MB (G92 Revision)
8800GT 512MB
8800GT 1GB
HD2900XT 1GB
HD2900Pro 1GB
HD3870 512MB
9600GT 512MB
HD2900XT 512MB
HD2900Pro 512MB
8800GTS 640MB
HD3850 512MB
8800GS 384MB
8800GT 256MB
8800GTS 320MB
7950GX2
HD 3850 256MB
X1950XTX
X1900XTX
X1950XT
X1900XT 512MB
7900GTX
X1900XT 256MB
7900GTO
7800GTX 512MB
7950GT
X1950Pro 512MB
X1950Pro 256MB
7900GT 512MB
8600GTS
X1800XT 512MB
7900GT 256MB
X1800XT 256MB
X1900GT
X1950GT
8600GT
X1900GT Rev2
7800GTX 256MB
7900GS
7800GT
X1800XL
7800GS
X1800GTO
HD2600XT
X1650XT
7600GT
HD2600Pro
X850XT/XTPE
X800XT/XTPE
6800Ultra/EE
6800GT
6800GS
X800XL
X850Pro
X800pro
X800GTO/GTO2
8500GT
X1650Pro
X1600XT
7600GS
HD2400XT
X800
6800
X800GT
7300GT
X1300XT
X1600Pro
8400GS
6800XT/LE
6600GT
HD2400Pro
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9800XT
5950Ultra
9800Pro
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9700Pro
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9800
9800SE 256bit
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9700
5900
5800
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6600
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TI4800
TI4600
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9500
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9600
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GeForce4 MX460
5200
9000
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GeForce3 TI200
GeForce4 MX 440
7500
GeForce2 Ultra
GeForce2 GTS
GeForce4 MX 420
Radeon (later renamed Radeon 7200)
GeForce 256 DDR
Voodoo5 5500
GeForce2 MX 400
GeForce 256
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Radeon VE (later renamed Radeon 7000)
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Matrox G400
TNT2
Rage128 Pro
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Savage 4
Matrox G200
Riva128
Intel i740
Rage3D Pro
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Voodoo2
Riva
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