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Old 08-09-2005, 19:48   #16
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There are many legends people don't know of, such as:

Nils LIEDHOLM
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Voted 59th in the 250 greatest european players of all time

Description:

Last syllable of Milan's "Grenoli" trio of Swedish strikers, the "Baron" won 1948 olympics and became a complete player in Serie A.

Name: Liedholm

Position: CF*, OMF
Nation: Sweden

Basic-

Age: 28
Foot: R
Constit: A
F Kick: F
Pen: A
Goal C1: 4

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 163
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Light Blue 1

Hairstyle-
Type: Very Short 2
Shape: 2
Front: 3

Hair Colour-
Type: 12

Physique-
Height: 187
Weight: 80
Body: 3

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 87
Defence: 60
Balance: 88
Stamina: 84
Top Sp: 74
Accele: 80
Respnse: 84
Agility: 76
Drib Acc: 87
Drib Spd: 82
S-P Acc: 92
S-P Spd: 86
L-P Acc: 88
L-P Spd: 85
Sht Acc: 90
Sht Pwr: 94
Sht Tech:89
F Kick: 82
Curling: 86
Header: 85
Jump: 83
Techniq: 92
Aggress: 85
Mental: 80
Consist: 6
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 90
Condit: 6
Wk Acc: 6
Wk Freq: 7

Special Ability-
Post Player *
Playmaking *
Both Feet Feint *
Long Throw *
Centre *
Outside *

I was going to do Billy BREMNER as he was rated as 42nd, but I heard he was in WE 9, and therefore most likely to figure in Pro Evo 5. Can anyone confirm this?

Keep up the feedback guys!


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Old 09-09-2005, 12:44   #17
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classics

very good thread man, i'm a fan of classic too and i've created many classic because i've find teh stat of many team since 1930. Continue to create man for some of the player you've done i haven't their stat.

If you can try to do John Charles and Florian Albert it will be great

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Old 09-09-2005, 14:25   #18
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Florian Albert on on my list to do, so watch this space.

Someone has already done John Charles, I feel his stats were overated, but having never seen him play it's just my word against theirs.

If you want I can post what they have put for him, and see what you think.
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Old 09-09-2005, 15:56   #19
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I'm not looking to do requests, but post your list up and they're may be some I can do or look into (no promises, sorry).
Okay (said beasley17 as he drew in a deep breath). I know you're already working on some of these, but here's the first installment of my suggestion list. More later.

Algeria: Lakhdar Belloumi

Argentina: Luis Artime, Amadeo Carrizo, Sergio Goycochea, Rene Houseman, Leopoldo Luque, Silvio Marzolini, Luis Monti, Julio Olarticoechea, Guillermo Stabile

Austria: Ernst Happel, Ernst Ocwirk, Matthias Sindelar

Belgium: Jan Ceulemans, Rik Coppens, Franky van der Elst, Paul van Himst

Brazil: Ademir, Jose Altafini, Amarildo, Josimar, Leonidas, Vava, Mario Zagallo

Cameroon: Thomas N'Kono, Francois Omam-Biyick, Jacques Songo'o

Chile: Carlos Caszely, Elias Figueroa

Colombia: Freddy Rincon

Czech Republic: Zdenek Nehoda, Oldrich Nejedly, Antonin Panenka

Denmark: Frank Arnesen, Preben Elkjaer, Allan Simonsen

England: David Batty, Jackie Charlton, Ray Clemence, Johnny Haynes, Stanley Mortensen, Norbert Stiles, Ray Wilkins

France: Robert Jonquet

Germany: Felix Magath, Max Morlock, Thomas Strunz

Hungary: Florian Albert, Ferenc Bene, Zoltan Czibor, Nandor Hidegkuti, Ladislav Kubala
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Old 09-09-2005, 16:03   #20
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Here's part 2:

Ireland: John Aldridge, Johnny Carey, Johnny Giles, Paul McGrath, Kevin Moran, Frank Stapleton, Steve Staunton

Italy: Riccardo Ferri, Silvio Piola

Mexico: Antonio Carbajal, Alberto Garcia Aspe, Manuel Negrete

Netherlands: Danny Blind, Wim Jonk, Piet Schrijvers, Jan van Beveren, Rene van der Kerkhof, Willy van der Kerkhof

Nigeria: Daniel Amokachi, Emanuel Amunike

Northern Ireland: Danny Blanchflower, Norman Whiteside

Paraguay: Julio Cesar "Romerito" Romero

Peru: Teofilo Cubillas

Poland: Zbigniew Boniek, Kazimierz Deyna, Robert Gadocha, Jerzy Gorgon, Gregorz Lato, Jan Tomaszewski

Portugal: Jorge Cadete, Mario Coluna, Paulo Futre, Antonio Simoes

Russia: Rinat Dasayev, Igor Netto

Scotland: Jim Baxter, Billy Bremner, Archie Gemmill, Alan Hansen, Colin Hendry, Alex McLeish, Billy McNeill, Gordon Strachan

Serbia & Montenegro: Dragan Dzajic, Mirko Jozic, Dragoslav Sekularac, Josip Skoblar

South Korea: Cha Bum-kun, Hong Myung-bo

Spain: Luis Del Sol, Luis Enrique, Jose Pirri, Julio Salinas

Sweden: Gunnar Gren, Kurt Hamrin, Anders Limpar, Gunnar Nordahl

Ukraine: Igor Belanov

United States: Tony Meola, Tab Ramos, Earnie Stewart

Uruguay: Alcides Ghiggia, Ladislao Mazurkiewicz, Pedro Rocha, Hector Scarone, Juan Schiaffino, Obdulio Varela
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Old 09-09-2005, 17:06   #21
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Krookwk, i saw this creation of John Charles, and i fell that he was overrated too(even if he was an incredible and wonderful player, for me in the top 10 of football history) but i thought that you can try to do it more realistic(i tried but like you i haven't many information).
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Old 09-09-2005, 17:08   #22
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Krookwk, i saw this creation of John Charles, and i fell that he was overrated too(even if he was an incredible and wonderful player, for me in the top 10 of football history) but i thought that you can try to do it more realistic(i tried but like you i haven't many information).
I'm guessing your referring to mine. Well put it this way: I've read his aytobiography 4 times, read countless articles on him and seen plenty of clips. Of course it's hard to create a player you've never seen play but consider this: he was voted the greatest foreign player to play in Serie A. Ahead of Platini, Van Basten, Maradona and Zidane.
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Old 10-09-2005, 15:26   #23
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The legend John Charles

The only stats I think should be revised would be his defence and his agility.

This all depends on whether you created him to make as much impact in the modern game, as he did back in the 50's/60's? Do you think he would be rated the same if he was playing now? That's my argument.

Also did he play all those positions? I've read he plied his trade at centre-half and centre-forward, but I didn't know he was a wing forward as well.

Either way, he was a great player and it's a shame there's not much footage of him in action.
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Old 10-09-2005, 15:40   #24
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That's alot of classics!

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I know you're already working on some of these, but here's the first installment of my suggestion list.
That's a long list, beasley17!

There are many there that I intend to create, but not even half of those have I even looked into. But if I continue to create at the rate I am, it will only be a matter of time before most of them will be done.

If I request any pictures or information about these other players, will you be able to give it? (No worries if you can't)

Anyway just keep on an eye on this thread.
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Old 10-09-2005, 15:49   #25
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Heard of him?

Here's another.....

Bernard VUKAS
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Voted 71st in the 250 greatest european players of all time

Description:

Born in Zagreb, he won the title three times with Hajduk Split in the 1950s and scored 300 goals in 615 outings, later joining Bologna. Captained Yugoslavia, winning 69 caps.

Name: Vukas

Position: CF*
Nation: Croatia

Basic-

Age: 28
Foot: R
Constit: A
F Kick: A
Pen: A
Goal C1: 16

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 229
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Light Blue 1

Hairstyle-
Type: Very Short 2
Shape: 1
Front: 9

Hair Colour-
Type: 12

Facial Hair-
Type: 92
Colour: Same as hair

Physique-
Height: 170
Weight: 70
Body: 5

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 90
Defence: 42
Balance: 77
Stamina: 84
Top Sp: 80
Accele: 86
Respnse: 93
Agility: 85
Drib Acc: 83
Drib Spd: 80
S-P Acc: 76
S-P Spd: 74
L-P Acc: 72
L-P Spd: 73
Sht Acc: 94
Sht Pwr: 80
Sht Tech:92
F Kick: 70
Curling: 68
Header: 84
Jump: 82
Techniq: 87
Aggress: 90
Mental: 85
Consist: 7
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 75
Condit: 7
Wk Acc: 5
Wk Freq: 5

Special Ability-
Positioning *
Reaction *
Scoring *
1-1 Scoring *

To play 615 games (Maldini has only played 530+ for Milan) AND score 300 goals is not a bad record at all!

I have plenty more to come, but post other legends (that don't appear on other threads) you think should be included in this thread.
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Old 10-09-2005, 16:06   #26
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hello huys,

krookwk continue your creation i like them very very much

to answer to tom pain, i want to say to you that i've created many classic player just reading some information or stat about them on internet and i know taht it's hard to do a player. but don't worry about John Charles, i've creating him with your stat ( lol!) because i like him very much and because he was a fabulous player, and like Krookwk said, who will come here and say to us that the stat are wrong, nobody.

so, will this thread has a long life and that the creation continue(maybe i will post some player created by me and my french friends, classic legend who are not mentionned here or in pes(and there is a lot!!)

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Old 10-09-2005, 16:31   #27
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To your point, YV84. As long as people creating these players take a bit of time and consideration into bringing life to these players, then this is the whole point to the thread. May it have a long life.

Saying that, I would not mind others giving their opinion on any of my creations, or stats & info you may think I have got wrong.

Also YV84 post your list of players you and others have created, myself & others may be interested.
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I can give you photos. Are there particular players you'd like me to start off with, or should I just post photos as I find them?

Also, I already requested stats for a number of classic players on the German site http://pes-x.de/, and the users there (plumbum, sol, and mxbirthdefect) created them for me -- a lot of German and Italian players. If you like, I can post those here.
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I can give you photos. Are there particular players you'd like me to start off with, or should I just post photos as I find them?

Also, I already requested stats for a number of classic players on the German site http://pes-x.de/, and the users there (plumbum, sol, and mxbirthdefect) created them for me -- a lot of German and Italian players. If you like, I can post those here.
thx for that site
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I can give you photos. Are there particular players you'd like me to start off with, or should I just post photos as I find them?

Also, I already requested stats for a number of classic players on the German site http://pes-x.de/, and the users there (plumbum, sol, and mxbirthdefect) created them for me -- a lot of German and Italian players. If you like, I can post those here.
Yeh if you can, they're might be a few that I was going to create, so that would save me some time. The more players that feature on the thread the better I say.

At the moment I've got plenty that I wanna do first, so I'll give you a shout about some photos soon. Cheers.

To the point of the post, I'm currently creating Allan SIMONSEN, Florian ALBERT & Danny BRANCHFLOWER, but info is limited. If anyone has any idea on these players, e.g. strongest parts to their game, please let me know. I can post early drafts of these players if you want to give me an opinion on them. Thanks.
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