Troy

razor · 20-05-2004, 12:40

has anyone seen it yet. i was really looking forward to it but i have exams so i havent had much time to go and watch it. it seems as though there hasnt been a lot of hype about it which is surprising. has anyone seen it and is it any good?

Zero · 20-05-2004, 16:24

It was ok... kind of enjoyable but it doesn't really follow the Iliad much. I hate Orlando Bloom even more so now thanks to Troy.

BazHilder · 20-05-2004, 17:33

I have no desire to watch it, i think it looks shit and its 3 hours long or something.

elfinke · 21-05-2004, 16:35

It's not 3 hours long, but it is ordinary.

Certainly isn't historically correct by any stretch, the acting is ordinary (Eric Bana and Brad Pitt are fantastic, Orlando Bloom is awful).

The script sucks. The dialogue is not much better, and probably worse than all of that is the fact it tries to tell 1/2 a dozen stories, but in the end it fails to deliver even one convincingly!

BUt despite all my criticism, it is worth going and seeing. But don't expect Gladiator or anything...

Lami · 21-05-2004, 16:40

well i saw the british version of Troy.. i duno wat yr it was made though, but the one i watched was nice, and planning to watch the new one... hope its as good

speo5 · 24-05-2004, 09:27

I thought it looked good but i have heard that it is shit so i aint gonna bother seeing it.

Spike · 24-05-2004, 13:03

I liked it. Dunno how historically accurate it could be considering it's based on a story, and I am never too bothered when things aren't 100% faithful to the original, as a different take on a story can be nice. I preferred it to Gladiator, as I think Russell Crowe is a gash actor, but that's just me.

elfinke · 24-05-2004, 16:48

It's well worth seeing, but don't expect much. As I said, Orlando Bloom is awful (for the first time in his recent acting career), but everyone else is quite good.

It does not compare to Gladiator, it looks cheap, it sounds cheap, the video is cheap, everything about the movie just seems cheap when compared to the uber-budgeted Gladiator.

But it is worth seeing.

Spike · 25-05-2004, 18:50

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Originally Posted by elfinke

It does not compare to Gladiator, it looks cheap, it sounds cheap, the video is cheap, everything about the movie just seems cheap when compared to the uber-budgeted Gladiator.

But it is worth seeing.

Gladiator budget - Over $100 million

Troy budget - Over $200 million.

It was anything but cheap. As for the video being cheap, I expect it will be 15 quid, like any other :p

elfinke · 28-05-2004, 16:54

Note that I said, 'seemed' cheap. I knew what the budget of the film was. The fact the director/producers spent that much money, and still made a horrible piece of tripe just adds insult to the injury. Especially when you look at the friggin' awful horse they entered Troy in. Goony-goo-goo.

Real Madrid have a huge budget (not necessarily spare money, but asset wise), and how good are they

?

Spike · 29-05-2004, 01:35

That's fair. The thing that ruins Gladiator for me is the unnecessary love interest with the "baddie" emperors sister. The whole point of the film is Maximus' vengeance at the brutal murder and/or rape of his wife and child, and as a husband and father I sympathised and felt Yeah! I'd do the same....and you cheer for him (well, inside, don't want to ruin the film in the cinema right?). But the love interest angle just makes him look like a retard. I heard once that the scriptwriter also thought it was a dumb idea, which detracted from the there of revenge and diffused Maximus' intensity, but studio execs wanted it there. OK, at the end he returns to his family, but by then the damage was done. Also, Russell Crowe is a gimp. Other than that I liked it, I agree it looks amazing visually.

NoNaKoS · 04-06-2004, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Gav

It was ok... kind of enjoyable but it doesn't really follow the Iliad much.

Yes that is right...And to justify this:
1) The Sparti's port???( it is said in the film).From when did sparti,a greek city situated in a mounty area of greece, own a cost?Mercy...Let Hollywood guys take a look at a greek map for god sake before they actually make such an important film...

2)In the film, in no scene at all, a single greek god is mentioned!Keep in mind that Agamemnon(and generally every greek king) was taking most of his decisions with the oracles of Gods!

3)Agamemnon did not enter troia...

To clear out some things i do not have any problem at all with the story as long as it is cleared from its beginning that it is a stand alone storyline that follows ver little Iliad true events!
Trust me..I am greek you know... :P

NoNaKoS · 04-06-2004, 23:27

troia=troy in greek!! LOL ;P

Zero · 05-06-2004, 10:42

Well I only know bits and peices of the Iliad but I knew enough to know it was Hollywooded up to the max. There was no mention of Paris' arrow being guided by Apollo... are we to believe Paris turned into Legolas sometime during the few days the movie was supposed to be over? Oh that's another thing, the Trojan war was supposed to be 10 years wasn't it? The whole love story kinda made me sick, probably because of Orlando Bloom. I thought in the Iliad Paris was a total bitch and loved having loads of men die because of her.

NoNaKoS · 05-06-2004, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Gav

Well I only know bits and peices of the Iliad but I knew enough to know it was Hollywooded up to the max. There was no mention of Paris' arrow being guided by Apollo... are we to believe Paris turned into Legolas sometime during the few days the movie was supposed to be over? Oh that's another thing, the Trojan war was supposed to be 10 years wasn't it? The whole love story kinda made me sick, probably because of Orlando Bloom. I thought in the Iliad Paris was a total bitch and loved having loads of men die because of her.

I totally agree.You are right gav!
"There was no mention of Paris' arrow being guided by Apollo... are we to believe Paris turned into Legolas sometime during the few days the movie was supposed to be over?" =====> LOL