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Old 12-07-2004, 15:45   #16
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Old 12-07-2004, 16:05   #17
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hmm...you were born in 1985 and you don't know who kurt cobain is?that's weird...but hey...you don't need to know everybody...but most teenagers know who he is...he was the vocalist of Nirvana.
yeah i heard he suicided my older step brother once said that to me but i didn't recall his name
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Old 12-07-2004, 16:11   #18
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Hmmm...I've been reading through some more Flight 77 stuff, it's quite convincing actually. Although it says that a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, where the hell did the plane end up then? Did it land somewhere else and the passengers sworn to secrecy?Did Flight 77 even exist?

It's a bit one dimensional and some of the evidence they bring up is patchy to say the least, still it would be nice to know the conspiracy theorists views on what actually happened to the plane.
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Old 12-07-2004, 16:53   #19
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Moon landing?
Definately happened, after seeing that programme that someone else mentioned, I'm embarrased to think I even contemplated a conspiracy.

Diana's car crash?
People die in high speed car crashes every day just because it was an established figure in the Monarchy doesn't mean it was murder and not just a tragic death.

September 11th?
I didn't really know of the Pentagon conspiracy, it looks like a plane smashed into it to me ? I could be led to believe that there was mass knowledge of potential Sept 11th attacks but nothing was done so the Americans could retaliate and take all the oil.

Area 51?
Paranoid Americans probably have built an Area 51, but dick-alls happened because there is no such thing as Aliens

Dr. David Kelly's death?
I think Dr Kelly is dead, and its tragic and I don't want to read any conspiracies into it, he was a depressed man that took his own life.

The 'Illuminati'?
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The Illuminati are elite men, those on the top, who control the International Bankers to control, for evil purposes, the entire world. Their agentur are bred, educated, and trained to be placed behind the scenes at all levels of government. As experts and advisers, they mould government policy so as to further the secret plans of their masters. They lure people away from God by offering them money, the world, the flesh, and the devil.
Nope don't believe in this, if this is what you are talking about, I think this guys watched devils advocate too much.


Kurt Cobain's suicide?
Clinically depressed man with drug addiction at the age where there are statistically highest suicide counts, shoots himself in the head - TRUE.

JFK and Lennon ?

Both shot by looneys, and if a man named Stone tells you otherwise punch him in the mouth.
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Old 12-07-2004, 16:58   #20
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What is Area 51?
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Old 12-07-2004, 17:00   #21
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it's supposed to be in nevada desert where nobody knows about it and they make secret weapons and hide weird stuff about aliens and such that they don't want the public to know about
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Old 13-07-2004, 17:58   #22
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it's supposed to be in nevada desert where nobody knows about it and they make secret weapons and hide weird stuff about aliens and such that they don't want the public to know about
It probably exists too. Thing is i dont care if its real cause i know if aliens existed (and did help create with all our technological advancements eg Ps2, microwave) i'd feel akward alien even towards the ps2 and microwave.
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Old 13-07-2004, 18:12   #23
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You got no respect for scientists and brainiacs if you think all our technological advances were by aliens, I mean if you were still playing amstrad standard games today and TVs without remotes you'd be saying it was crap.
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Old 13-07-2004, 20:40   #24
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You got no respect for scientists and brainiacs if you think all our technological advances were by aliens, I mean if you were still playing amstrad standard games today and TVs without remotes you'd be saying it was crap.
Nah i got respect. But you must admit if aliens were responsible for the technological revolution wouldn't you feel a bit akward.
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Old 13-07-2004, 20:53   #25
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I think I can safely say they are not, if they were I'd think aliens were a bit rubbish really. I think the fact that war and how to kill people on a massive scale being the main reasons for technological advancements makes me a bit uneasy.
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Old 14-07-2004, 00:34   #26
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My theory about Flight 77:

They (US government) shot the plane down themselves in fear of where it was headed. Then to cover it up they fired one at the pentagon.
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Old 14-07-2004, 01:25   #27
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These hostages being beheaded on Video started off by Amercians(or Mercenaries) with covered faces, Then when the terrorists see this on the news they think its what they should be doing and they start doing it themselfs and the craze carries on..
Planted the idea into their head and made it look like its already being done by them.

Quite Clever really

BTW I have more but I can't be arsed to post them on a public forum.
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Old 14-07-2004, 18:38   #28
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On Area 51: think how many new tecnologies have been discovered since it happened.

The world has probably progressed twice as much as hundreds of preceeding years.
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Old 14-07-2004, 19:30   #29
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These hostages being beheaded on Video started off by Amercians(or Mercenaries) with covered faces, Then when the terrorists see this on the news they think its what they should be doing and they start doing it themselfs and the craze carries on..
Planted the idea into their head and made it look like its already being done by them.

Quite Clever really
Thats the funniest thing I've ever read and quite offensive really. You are talking about a country/culture that still has capital punishment and one that has been under a strict regime by Saddam, and you are saying they only did beheading because they saw video footage of a "faked" American beheading !!!
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Old 15-07-2004, 06:37   #30
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Well yes, Not just a video but a video shown and talked about over and over again on CNN all over the world.

Some people had this idea already but to start this craze is another thing all together.
It helps when everyone in the world sees this and thus it seeming the normal tactic of the terrorist or fighters against the 'infidels' or other causes.

I think you underestimate the power of the media.
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