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View Poll Results: Who is the best youngster in the premiership???
Rooney 15 29.41%
C.Ronaldo 3 5.88%
Van Persie 1 1.96%
Routledge 2 3.92%
Robben 17 33.33%
S. Wright-Phillips 7 13.73%
Reyes 3 5.88%
Defoe 0 0%
Downing 0 0%
Other 3 5.88%
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Old 16-04-2005, 21:51   #16
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Initially thought of Routledge and SWP, but SWP will be turning 24 this year, which is not very young, so I voted for WR.
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Old 16-04-2005, 22:08   #17
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For me, the best young talents in the league are Rooney and Reyes. I'd obviously like to pick Reyes, but until he fully gets to grips with the Premiership, I have to go for Rooney. All the listed players have superb talent, but these two are slightly ahead of the rest.

Rooney has shown his worth repeatedly now, while Reyes has only shown glimpses of it in the Premiership, but when both are on top form, it's a very close call. Rooney should become one of the England greats, while Reyes should become a superstar; one of the best forwards in the world. I just hope he shows his worth at Arsenal and doesn't have to head back to La Liga to prove what a tremendous player he is.

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1) Rooney
2) Reyes
3) SWP
4) Robben
5) C.Ronaldo
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You know, Sean Wright-Phillips is 23 at the moment. He's hardly a youngster. He's going to be 24 pretty soon.

So I'm not sure if he deserves to be on this poll. Not that I don't think he's a good player. He is a very good player. It's just that he's getting a bit old to still be regarded as a "youngster". I could also say the same thing about Joaquin.
It don't matter if he deserves to be on it or not. Hes still relatively young and hes still fresh. In general, the best player on that list is probably Wayne Rooney but looking at this season, which player has made a bigger impact than Shaun Wright-Phillips.

Hes dragged City to mid-table, hes won Sven round finally and you could now class him as one of the best right wingers in the Premiership, if not Europe, if not, the world.
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Robben, Chelsea just aren't the same team without him.
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christiano ronaldo , man utd cant push forward without him , same as robben , but christiano is more fun to look at
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I'm pretty sure that Rooney won't turn out as the next Gascoigne. For starters, Gascoigne never played for a team who expects success like Manchester United. And he was never coached by a strict, disciplined manager such as Sir Alex Ferguson.

Just because Rooney happens to have a controversial private life, it doesn't mean that he'll go in the same direction as Gascoigne. If there was a club like united around (winning things) during the early part of his career, he would have ended up as one of the world's best players. The same could also be said about Shearer.

So if anything, Gascoigne's wasted potential was all down to his bad decisions. Rooney has already moved in the right direction of fulfilling his potential just by moving to us. Which was a good career move in my eyes. Now, if only Shearer could understand that.
250 Goals and Shearer wasted his potential? could have been one of the world's best players? he already was my friend...... believe me Shearer would be more happy than what is happening now than if he wen't to Man Utd, hense why he rejected you's Thrice.....

Gazza played for Rangers, success is demanded up their too

Zdnek Zeman was Gazza's coach at Lazio and he is renound for being a tough taskmaster and one of footy's strictest managers
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Strange that on a day when most of the football world seems United in their approval of Alan Shearer's decision to postpone his retirement, this spiteful invective appeared on bbc.co.uk:

"Alan Shearer is the finest English striker there has been, according to Newcastle boss Graeme Souness and ex-Magpies manager Kevin Keegan.

That is the pair's verdict on the 34-year-old, who has 250 Premiership goals to his credit and is about to prolong his player career for a further season.

But is he really the best?

For all his league goals - and no-one can argue that his achievement is not remarkable - there is not much silverware on the Shearer mantlepiece.

Maybe, once the boots have been hung up and all that is left of Shearer's career are videos of his goals, the Geordie legend may regret that the shelves are not stacked with medals instead.

Shearer won the Premiership with Blackburn in 1995 but that remains his only honour.

Twice he snubbed the overtures of Manchester United - first in 1992 when he joined Blackburn from Southampton for £3.3m and then in 1996 when he signed for Newcastle for a then world record £15m fee.

And while Shearer never arrived at Old Trafford, eight Premiership titles, the Champions League and four FA Cups did.

Maybe, after he has finished kicking the ball around St James' Park, Shearer will spend his retirement kicking himself.

He will have plenty of time to 'guesstimate' how many more goals he could have scored had he been the target for David Beckham's pin-point crosses.

With his fantastic ability in the air and tenacity and predatory instinct in the box, Shearer would have thrived on the service.

It was a combination that worked well at international level.

For England, Shearer led from the front - captaining his country 34 times and scoring 34 [sic] goals in 63 appearances.

Shearer shone at Euro 96 but England lost in the semi-finals

He was inspirational in England's march to the semi-finals of Euro 96, where he won the golden boot after top-scoring in the tournament with five goals.

But England's exit at the hands of Germany in a penalty shoot-out seems to typify Shearer's career - with it possibly being the sort that never quite fulfilled its promise.

Shearer was the first striker to reach the landmarks of 100 and 200 Premiership goals and he remains the league's all-time top scorer.

But it is likely he would have swapped that in an instant to match Geoff Hurst's hat-trick in England's World Cup final success in 1966.

Okay, so who wouldn't?

But Souness insists Shearer "is the greatest centre-forward England has ever had - he is a phenomenon".

And aren't players judged on their successes?

Shearer will be remembered as a top-class finisher but how does he rate alongside former England strikers Nat Lofthouse, Jimmy Greaves and Gary Lineker?

Of the three, Lofthouse scored as many and Greaves and Lineker scored more international goals than Shearer - and each of them had a more impressive goals-to-games ratio.

Undoubtedly, Shearer occupies a space among the very elite of English strikers.

But you can not help wondering what might have been had he joined Manchester United and regularly tested himself against the very best in Europe."

Oh dear, what a nasty piece of writing from Ian Hughes - surely a Southern-based Manchester United fan.

What Ian failed to point out is that he wrote this piece at the start of February following Shearer's 250th Premiership goal against Manchester City and posted it on the Beeb website then.

It was inaccurate tripe when he wrote it and it remains so. Why he felt the need to inflict it on us again is a mystery. The whole premise of the article is deeply flawed: to be a great footballer you have to have a full trophy cabinet.

So, Phil Neville is one of the greatest defenders we've ever seen then? Diego Forlan must be as great as Shearer and Jesper Blomqvist is one of Europe's finest?

Did Geoff Hurst's hat-trick and medal mean he was a far better player than Jimmy Greaves?

Was Matt Le Tissier a great player? Of course, he was. Did he need to have a stack of medals to prove it? Of course, not.

Manchester United fans will never understand why Shearer turned them down, twice, because the concept of regional loyalty is one that is alien to all but a handful of them.

Shearer was prepared to gamble a guaranteed sack-full of medals at Old Trafford with the chance of winning just
one piece of silverware for his hometown club.

It's a sad old world that pillories someone for not taking the easy option. Again, a difficult thing for all glory-seeking
Manchester United fans to comprehend.

Hughes concludes by saying, "But you can not help wondering what might have been had he joined United". I think you'll find he did join United and became an absolute
legend amongst his own kind. That's worth much, much more than any shiny silver thing.

And who knows? Perhaps Shearer might well have gone to Old Trafford had they got a set of fans worth playing for....
ound for being a tough taskmaster and one of footy's strictest managers
so as you can see according to this guy just because Phil Neville has won 7 premiership trophies he is the greatest defender their has ever been........ sour grapes perhaps?
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Old 17-04-2005, 11:08   #25
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Robben, plays with more maturity than Rooney, who is the only player who comes close to his level in his position.
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Got to be Rooney, he's the youngest one there ain't he ? Well I think cementing a first team place at a club like Man Utd speaks for itself.
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Come on be honest, Rangers aren't half the club we are. And I'm sorry but Walter Smith was nothing compared to Sir Alex Ferguson. I can't believe that you're trying to compare Zdenek Zeman and Walter Smith with Sir Alex Ferguson. Sir Alex Ferguson is a legendary manager. He comes in the same bracket as Brian Clough, Sir Matt Busby, Bob Paisley etc.
nah mate i wasnt comparing Zemen to Fergie i was just saying that he too was a tough task master
so Gazza has worked under discipline..... and i know Rangers aren't comparable to Man Utd in terms of world wide recognition etc but 2nd is not an option for Rangers and Gazza had that too
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a close call of three robben ronaldo and rooney but i would pick rooney
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Robben: way more consistent and mature and impressive then any other on the list... A shame he missed half the season, but in every game he did play he showed world-class...
Had no problem getting back into rythm, even after being out of the games for long periods... *

*...Or perhaps he WAS out of rythm: imagine that!
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What age is Robben?
i think he is well overrated! he aint as good as Duff IMO
Good one ur lucky u asked me he is 21 yrs. 23/1/84.
Robben is by far the best left midfielder, and youngster in the premiership.

Rooney is overated but he is my favourite english playerr, he is very good but he is not better than robben
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