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Old 28-11-2008, 19:52   #1
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Predicting the future/Paradoxes.
On some other forum there was a topic about Paradoxes, and an interesting link came up, and I think its worth a read for those even slightly interested.

http://www.coderprofile.com/networks...-have-a-theory
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Old 28-11-2008, 20:06   #2
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Was he texting while he was thinking of that?
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Old 28-11-2008, 20:08   #3
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I don't know.

The dude talks about taking into account every variable in the world and every person in the world to create an outcome, but he is forgetting something, if there is an infinite amount of variables, then there too are an infinite amount of possibilities or outcomes. Even one slight change in a variable will slightly affect the outcome.
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Old 28-11-2008, 20:16   #4
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This reminds me of a story I came across about a guy who joined an internet forum and claimed to be from the future.

I'll try find it and post it up, was ages ago.
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Old 28-11-2008, 20:20   #5
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This reminds me of a story I came across about a guy who joined an internet forum and claimed to be from the future.

I'll try find it and post it up, was ages ago.
That seems potentially great.
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Old 28-11-2008, 20:22   #6
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-> Computer collects variables (which change the moment it collects them, it cannot execute before the variables change because its the execution that changes them).
-> Computer predicts future (which changes the moment its predicts it, it cannot execute faster then the future changing because its the execution that changes it).
-> Computer outputs future which is no longer the future and therefore irrelevant.
I dont know what to think to be honest, its beyond me, but its still interesting to hear different views, this one I just read questioned a lot of what I had read beforehand.
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Old 28-11-2008, 20:24   #7
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Old 28-11-2008, 21:00   #8
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That seems potentially great.
Ok here we go, the guy is called John Titer and used the username Time Travel_0. Here's his Wiki page and below is the forum he posted in.

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Basically this guy turned up on a time travel discussion board claiming to be from the future. As time went on he started answering questions and soon afterward became an internet phenomenon. To the best of my understanding John died soon after the posts, either that or just vanished one way or the other.

Personally this isn't my thing I just listened to a radio show about him because I can.
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Old 28-11-2008, 21:10   #9
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This is something that Einstein was convinced of, but quantum physics proves that many events are truly random and therefore it is not possible to predict the future like this.
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Old 28-11-2008, 21:36   #10
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Thats the most interesting thing ive read in ages


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Old 28-11-2008, 22:11   #11
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I'm not going to hijack this thread but I've found more posts on that John Titor fella and it looks like there might be a bit of banter going on in the aftermath, I'll make a new thread about him altogether later on.
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Just sounds like someone who knows a bit too much about science, this Titor character.
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Old 29-11-2008, 03:45   #13
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Who hasn't considered that idea? It's wrong anyway, there are plenty of things that are random and that could not be predicted even if you know the state of the entire universe. You could come up with some probabilty distribution and say what the universe is most likely to look like after x amount of time, but the distribution would broaden so quickly as to be meaningless after a very small amount of time.
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The dude talks about taking into account every variable in the world and every person in the world to create an outcome, but he is forgetting something, if there is an infinite amount of variables, then there too are an infinite amount of possibilities or outcomes. Even one slight change in a variable will slightly affect the outcome.
The above, which leads us to this:

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Who hasn't considered that idea? It's wrong anyway, there are plenty of things that are random and that could not be predicted even if you know the state of the entire universe. You could come up with some probabilty distribution and say what the universe is most likely to look like after x amount of time, but the distribution would broaden so quickly as to be meaningless after a very small amount of time.
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