General PES 2010 News

freestyleh7 · 18-03-2009, 18:39

Abit early yes but i just saw some interesting information regarding pro evo 2010 on W.E.N.B

# PES 2010 team will have 200 extra people working on the game
# New graphics and animation engine
# The Spanish La Liga license is back, amongst other lost licenses in the past
# The community mode is in
# Master League revamp
# The UEFA Europa License is a target
# 10 vs 10 online is a target

your thoughts, and if you have any other pro evo 2010 information post it up in here saves making another thread.

***Phatmann*** · 18-03-2009, 18:43

10 vs 10 online is a target? Perhaps they should start smaller and work on 1 vs 1 a bit more and make it work well rather than aiming to expand to 10 vs 10.

Foxhound · 18-03-2009, 18:48

For me, a new game engine is a must.

iamcanadianeh · 18-03-2009, 18:48

You could add to that the hint that it will have 360 degree movement. It wasn't an "official" rumour, but something hinted at by a guy with good connections (Caniggia). Since everything is just rumours, and all rumours are pretty much equal, I'd put that one on the list.

BTW - I like the idea of posting latest news on PES 2010, from whatever site it comes from, in here. Even if the news is from elsewhere, it's good for us on PESGAMING to be able to discuss all the speculation freely. This should be sticky IMO so that we can keep it up to date, and reduce the amount of related posts into one main one.

***Hunter*** · 18-03-2009, 18:59

To be honest, I couldn't care. I mean, absolutely everything we've ever been told by Konami since it reached next-gen has been unfounded and often ridiculously exaggerated. I've been playing PES 2009 since release day, and only last week did I start playing FIFA 09 since a friend bought it. I just now need to decide which game I will choose come Autumn.

Even if they have 200 people working on PES 2010, I have no hope to be completely honest. They couldn't even get 1 vs. 1 to work online, so how they are to expand to 10 vs. 10 I'll have no idea. PES6 was perfect online, and didn't need any improving, instead, they just decided to make the next two PES games unplayable online. It's never expansion with Konami, just replacement. They'll remove aspects of each game in order to accommodate new features. I could probably make the statement right now that FIFA 09 will be better than PES 2010 based on Konami's lack of improvements from the last 3 PES installments.

Dale C. · 18-03-2009, 19:19

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Originally Posted by iamcanadianeh

You could add to that the hint that it will have 360 degree movement. It wasn't an "official" rumour, but something hinted at by a guy with good connections (Caniggia). Since everything is just rumours, and all rumours are pretty much equal, I'd put that one on the list.

BTW - I like the idea of posting latest news on PES 2010, from whatever site it comes from, in here. Even if the news is from elsewhere, it's good for us on PESGAMING to be able to discuss all the speculation freely. This should be sticky IMO so that we can keep it up to date, and reduce the amount of related posts into one main one.

This will never ever, ever ever, ever ever, ever be even considered as a sticky.

Reason being, once the n00bs get a hold of it, after maybe 2 pages, it'll turn into a PES vs FIFA debate.

freestyleh7 · 18-03-2009, 19:41

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Originally Posted by dalechapman

This will never ever, ever ever, ever ever, ever be even considered as a sticky.

Reason being, once the n00bs get a hold of it, after maybe 2 pages, it'll turn into a PES vs FIFA debate.

Fair point, but isnt this website called pesgaming yellow cards should now be dished out to anyone who mentions fifa 09's goodness or news in this thread.

iamcanadianeh · 18-03-2009, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalechapman

This will never ever, ever ever, ever ever, ever be even considered as a sticky.

Reason being, once the n00bs get a hold of it, after maybe 2 pages, it'll turn into a PES vs FIFA debate.

You're probably right there

, but I'd like to see a latest news section on this site or something like it - somewhere to discuss the latest rumours as they pour in.

Don't really care though, just a suggestion.

As for whether these romours will really materialize... Well, geez, nobody knows that, it's just interesting to begin to hear what may be in store for the next version. I personally am not concerned about the future of the series, because I enjoyed PES 09 and can see that although the transition to Next Gen has obviously been difficult for Konami, that things are definitely headed in the right direction. Maybe a bit too slowly for some people, but headed in the right direction regardless.

Anyway, even in the romour mill these are only being sited as targets for being in 2010. The game isn't completed, obviously, so things like 10 vs 10 are just what they are, apparently, trying to achieve.

Amateur · 19-03-2009, 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamcanadianeh

You could add to that the hint that it will have 360 degree movement. It wasn't an "official" rumour, but something hinted at by a guy with good connections (Caniggia). Since everything is just rumours, and all rumours are pretty much equal, I'd put that one on the list.

BTW - I like the idea of posting latest news on PES 2010, from whatever site it comes from, in here. Even if the news is from elsewhere, it's good for us on PESGAMING to be able to discuss all the speculation freely. This should be sticky IMO so that we can keep it up to date, and reduce the amount of related posts into one main one.

Well the truth is that PES needs 360ª movement, and most of us are expecting 360ª movements in PES 2010.

Can you imagine how sales would go if PES 2010 played with the same 8-directional movements and passing??

Personally, I will not spend another 50 bucks on a game like PES09. I've had enough of 8-directional movements and arcade play. It is not Next Gen and it isn't close to playing like a Next Gen game.

The Graphics could also improve significantly, although IMO it shouldn't be a priority.

And just to speak my mind, I really don't give a damn about the "BAL" or the "10 vs 10". In my opinion those "new features" are just new ways for screwing us over.

Which is pretty much how This business works.. the game never really evolves, and they never show any intention in evolving.

You just buy one of their games, fall in love with it, you start expecting improvements in the next installment.. and then after 4 or 5 years of being a loyal customer -you- finally understand that the game will never evolve.

It's just new paint on the same car. But fact remains that you bought the product for 4 or 5 years.. and that just like you, somebody else, probably younger, will be a 1st time buyer.

Anyways..

I think the priorities should be in bringing back the Fluid Movements of the PES of old. If Konami cannot accomplish this with PES 2010 they will take a serious dip in sales, probably worst than this year's.

Hopefully the "new graphics and animations" will come hand-in-hand with New STATS. Plus a host of New Controls.

Other than that, The game needs New and more Accurate Foundations. Which is pretty much The Bottom Line.

Otherwise, the movements can improve, the graphics, we could even have all the licenses and modes in the world -BUT- if the Stats remain the same, the Gameplay will pretty much remain the same at its core.

And that's where PES should really start improving. They need to Upgrade their Foundations.

I'd like to think they will start doing that with PES 2010. Although I know it won't happen any time soon for whatever excuse or reason. It's a lost cause as far as I'm concerned.

Tommy88 · 19-03-2009, 11:42

1 ON 1 was tolerable but still awful compared to other games, 2 v 2 was unplayable....so 10 v 10 HA i dont think so.

DublinGunner · 19-03-2009, 16:30

TBH I'd love some better atmospheric improvements.

1. Crowd. The crowd looks crap, needs serious improvement.
2. Crowd chants / songs. Would it be so difficult to even pick the top 10-20 teams and have real crowd chants going off during the game?
3. Commentary needs a complete overhaul. How about they say stuff that you'd actually expect from a commentator? i.e. [team] takes the lead, instead of 'they', [player] scores, instead of 'he' etc
4. Ball sounds are terrible, needs improving.
5. It snows at football games. We need snow.
6. Get rid of the stupid really weird round shadows that seem to overlay the normal shadows.
7. Shadows do not cast in shaded areas of the pitch Konami. Grrrr.....
8. In BAL, can we have the real league names? Or at least English/Dutch/Spanish etc instead of league C/D etc
9. Champions league is licensed. Why can this not be incorporated into BAL instead of Euro Championship?
10. Is it that difficult to call the international cup the world cup? (or is this another bloomin' license issue?)
11. For us Irish lads, I'd love to hear Eamonn Dunphy and Johnny Giles ha ha! Never gonna happen but that would be hilarious!

I'll post again when I can think of more!

iamcanadianeh · 19-03-2009, 16:42

Well... Seems to me like we're definitely unable to keep this thread on the subject of new rumours and news. Point taken.

DublinGunner · 19-03-2009, 16:54

Bugger, I posted my last post in the wrong thread!!

Damn you tabbed browsing.........

Amateur · 19-03-2009, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DublinGunner

TBH I'd love some better atmospheric improvements.

1. Crowd. The crowd looks crap, needs serious improvement.
2. Crowd chants / songs. Would it be so difficult to even pick the top 10-20 teams and have real crowd chants going off during the game?
3. Commentary needs a complete overhaul. How about they say stuff that you'd actually expect from a commentator? i.e. [team] takes the lead, instead of 'they', [player] scores, instead of 'he' etc
4. Ball sounds are terrible, needs improving.
5. It snows at football games. We need snow.
6. Get rid of the stupid really weird round shadows that seem to overlay the normal shadows.
7. Shadows do not cast in shaded areas of the pitch Konami. Grrrr.....
8. In BAL, can we have the real league names? Or at least English/Dutch/Spanish etc instead of league C/D etc
9. Champions league is licensed. Why can this not be incorporated into BAL instead of Euro Championship?
10. Is it that difficult to call the international cup the world cup? (or is this another bloomin' license issue?)
11. For us Irish lads, I'd love to hear Eamonn Dunphy and Johnny Giles ha ha! Never gonna happen but that would be hilarious!

I'll post again when I can think of more!

And with the exclusion of better "Commentaries"..

Do you think any of that will actually change The Gameplay??

A lot of light-weight details that would go unnoticed by most fans because it haves nothing to do with The Actual Gameplay. Wasted effort, in my opinion.

martyl2 · 19-03-2009, 22:37

More importantly a new gaming engine. PES of late has lost its fluidity and while I do admit PES 09 is fun as i still play it regularly, it certainly does not have the lasting appeal or addictiveness of older pro evo's e.g. pes 4,5,6....Gameplay changes definitely has to be the focus as they can implement new features all they want but the change in how the game plays will evidently determine whether pes fans love it or hate it.