Ball Physics: Which one did you find realistic after playing the PES 2011 demo?

The_whisper · 16-09-2010, 10:50

I have a bad feeling about the way ball floats, hits and it's overall physics. What do you guys think?

Tommy88 · 16-09-2010, 11:42

Feels like you're playing with a floater

byrnie05 · 16-09-2010, 11:47

It's like the Jabulani combined with a 99p plastiball. Feels crap because we need to relearn the weights required for where we aim to hit it.

Corners that were once into the middle of the box at half power are being over-hit deep into the box or beyond and that's just silly.

DIECI · 16-09-2010, 15:24

the physics in 2010 were better I think but then again, we'll get used to 2011 and it won't feel strange after a while.

shaun7 · 16-09-2010, 15:35

^Agreed.
I am already feeling better with pes 11 physics. But anyway it has some awkward physics AT TIMES, but then again, it surprises me in others. So I am still undecided over physics.

The_whisper · 16-09-2010, 19:01

The more I play, the more I become concerned. At first I thought, Ok it's just the new system that I have to get used to like always, but now, I can definitely say that the Ball and everything related to it is a mess.
Shooting is not giving me the pleasure it used to give before, ball is like it's flying with wings. Strange things happen at some occasions where you'd think KONAMI would have got a good kicking if Newton was around.
The lightness of the ball is effecting every aspect of the game to the point I start to forget all the good things and improvements the game has compared to previous versions.
One more thing, Is it me or the players ALWAYS tend to FLIP OVER when tackled on the ball?
That doesn't seem so realistic to me.
Anyways... I hope these problems are just confined to demo.

DIECI · 16-09-2010, 19:10

^ the ball does float, the game has a Fifaish feel to it, from the ball to the animation and the graphics.

The_whisper · 16-09-2010, 20:12

^ I have not played Fifa as much as I could make comparison, but this is EXACTLY what my brother, who's a Fifa player btw, told me when he watched me play.
Last year it was the game speed which turned me off, now it seems the floating ball gonna take the wheel of unfortunate ...
SORT IT OUT KONAMI... ASAP.

shaun7 · 16-09-2010, 20:16

I am scoring from long range. As I said, you need to shake off the defender first. I agree that at times it is floaty and yeah it is a bit weird, but at other times it's good. As I said, I am shooting pretty good now and when I have space, I execute, just like in reality. That's when you take a step forward from stationary using the sprint button and then shoot and point the analogue towards the goal. I find this very effective. From stationary, take a step with the r1 button and then shoot. Try it. It worked for me. But beware of the pressure. Make sure you trick the defender with a feint or something.

ezio · 16-09-2010, 21:19

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Originally Posted by shaun7

I am scoring from long range. As I said, you need to shake off the defender first. I agree that at times it is floaty and yeah it is a bit weird, but at other times it's good. As I said, I am shooting pretty good now and when I have space, I execute, just like in reality. That's when you take a step forward from stationary using the sprint button and then shoot and point the analogue towards the goal. I find this very effective. From stationary, take a step with the r1 button and then shoot. Try it. It worked for me. But beware of the pressure. Make sure you trick the defender with a feint or something.

I agree with this. It is all about being in good position for the shot and having the player in a good position as well.

Magnin#1 · 16-09-2010, 21:26

I really like the bal physics on PES 2011, it gives you more freedom and more unexpecable siuations.

DIECI · 16-09-2010, 22:34

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Originally Posted by The_whisper

^ I have not played Fifa as much as I could make comparison, but this is EXACTLY what my brother, who's a Fifa player btw, told me when he watched me play.
Last year it was the game speed which turned me off, now it seems the floating ball gonna take the wheel of unfortunate ...
SORT IT OUT KONAMI... ASAP.

ya if they could use the 2010 ball physics and shooting with this years passing system it would be very close to perfect ! I dont know what was wrong with the shooting and physics last year that they needed to change it, tweek it a bit I understand but this is very different.

byrnie05 · 17-09-2010, 00:22

Shooting has rarely needed changing on PES, so I wish they had left it alone. The passing and AI changes are so good that with the old shooting system and shot physics, it'd be pretty much spot on. As it is, it's just a bit odd.

**Dundon's** · 17-09-2010, 01:37

The shooting killed the demo for me, it used to be the best bloody thing PES always had going for it regardless to what else they messed up. I remember feeling one with the ball when dinking and chipping the keeper, but now...

I have still only played the PC version.

wallace1231 · 17-09-2010, 01:49

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Originally Posted by Dundon's

The shooting killed the demo for me, it used to be the best bloody thing PES always had going for it regardless to what else they messed up. I remember feeling one with the ball when dinking and chipping the kepper, but now...

I have still only played the PC verson.

... but now that is replaced with a feeling of imminent ballooning over the bar, and a feeling of shock and surprise if it doesn't.

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