New Video

Alolo91 · 03-06-2011, 02:02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSGTs597TO4

The only problem is, That it still looks like shit. Especially the movement animations.

zizou4ever · 03-06-2011, 02:44

It looks like we will have a PES 2011.5

shaun7 · 03-06-2011, 05:00

A positive thing I noticed is that the movement is better. Look at that lofted ball and then the volley. That wasn't possible in pes 11 because you couldn't hit a volley no matter what if you were close to the keeper.
And although the animations are bad, it looks smoother than pes 11 which is always good. Oh and you can play slow ground passes too.

Waiting to see more and again, I won't judge before I see the demo or at least more videos especially gameplay.

Zorac1979 · 03-06-2011, 05:54

I hope the improve the sound, the crowd and commentary has been god awful for years now, When you score a goal even at home it's like "Yehh, yawwn, whatever"

***Hunter*** · 03-06-2011, 09:53

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Originally Posted by shaun7

A positive thing I noticed is that the movement is better. Look at that lofted ball and then the volley. That wasn't possible in pes 11 because you couldn't hit a volley no matter what if you were close to the keeper.

I'm guessing you overlooked how in this trailer the right back who could have intercepted the lofted through ball just stood there stiff like a lemon and let the ball go by.

It's difficult to say whether it's even PES 2011.5, it's probably more like PES 2010.5 to be honest. I mean, the video opened up with Ashley Cole pinging a 40 yard pass comfortably...with his right foot.

shaun7 · 03-06-2011, 10:16

^Well, the same thing happened in pes 11 and to be honest a pes 10 .5 is way to harsh becuase that game was a 125 mph dribbling everyone with high seed players not a slow paced tactical game. So it's for sure not pes 10.5.

But a pes 11.5,I would say so, yeah from the trailer.
Oh and I try to stay positive before E3 because even though pes and fifa aren't on my most watch list in E3, I still want a football game for another year, because I like football.

So I try to stay positive.

***Hunter*** · 03-06-2011, 10:30

Believe me when I say I'm a hugely optimistic person, and a very positive one as well, I guess PES and football games is just one area where I've lost all hope.

We need 2K to develop a football game, desperately.

shaun7 · 03-06-2011, 10:35

Well a new developer would bring competition so it will always be good.

As you see, I also lost the excitement I had for football games but I still try to judge after gameplay videos or demos especially.

So again, I'll wait and see.

joekim1 · 03-06-2011, 11:40

i'm still troubled by the lack of vertical 1-2s. all the attacking movement is forwards, never ever sideways. it's like SF4, compared to something like tekken or virtua fighter.

**Ali_BWFC** · 03-06-2011, 11:45

The footage doesn't look too different from this year's game, unfortunately. The animations still look stiff and unrealistic. I'll remain slightly hopeful, but that will fade if they continue to produce footage like this.

shaun7 · 03-06-2011, 13:14

^Animations are a priority afterall in pes, but there were other annoyances in pes 11 much worse, like defenders catching up and attackers slowing down randomly and response times on volleys.

Anyway I agree that they should put propert gameplay footages because those are 1 time attacks and doesn't show much.

**Ali_BWFC** · 03-06-2011, 13:57

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Originally Posted by shaun7

^Animations are a priority afterall in pes, but there were other annoyances in pes 11 much worse, like defenders catching up and attackers slowing down randomly and response times on volleys.

Anyway I agree that they should put propert gameplay footages because those are 1 time attacks and doesn't show much.

I know there's more problems in PES, like the ones you mentioned, but it's hard to notice those from that short footage.

I saw a video on IGN with some mo-cap footage. WHO are they getting to do the bloody mo-cap? Must be the worst footballer ever!

BuddhaBone · 03-06-2011, 16:12

I can't help but to think that this 2012 installment will be nothing more than the errors/bug-corrected version of 2011. PR will do its best to sell us all that stuff as new. Maybe they even put some nice old but lately removed options like running directions of players back in and do some other nice UI style so all looks "new" again. But the principle behind it will still fail to satisfy real PES vets as they prove with every year of next-gen installments that they make 2 steps back when they do 1 forward. And still I must repeat: This looks like 2011 without the partly gamebreaking errors of the original 2011 we are hanging around with now.

And to be honest: If this is all they change from what I can see, why not bring an update to 2011 optimizing the AI? It would be possible, I'm sure. They just don't want because they want to make money with this "full version update".

I also hope they remove those two strange ability cards for sprinting and turning like crazy (Arshavin, Messi, CR7, Elia, Capel etc.) or at least modify them that it is less obvious compared to other top speed guys like Agüro, Pato and others. It's just toooooo obvious. Generally I'd like to see a real difference between stats of players but in a fluid transition, not like now. This also applies to defenders who should stick realistically to what top speed they can really have. A defender is too slow? Have a better AI positioning them accordingly to their defence skill and it will always be up to the player to fail or succeed. Like now it's just ridiculous. Konami integrated another error in gameplay to cover another error here... And it seems they just go on with that. Just to avoid the unavoidable: Redesign the game and create a new future-proof engine!

Pantilimon · 03-06-2011, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Alolo91

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSGTs597TO4

The only problem is, That it still looks like shit. Especially the movement animations.

Ghahahaha aren't you the one who was arguing with me about the shity gameplay? Yes you are...
I don't know if you remember when you told me that I was stupid and imature because I had judged a game by a single video that soon.
You retard, now you think the way I do, the right thinking.Good to see you've progressed a little bit from your stupidity.

Neox9114 · 03-06-2011, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Pantilimon

Ghahahaha aren't you the one who was arguing with me about the shity gameplay? Yes you are...
I don't know if you remember when you told me that I was stupid and imature because I had judged a game by a single video that soon.
You retard, now you think the way I do, the right thinking.Good to see you've progressed a little bit from your stupidity.

PM him, dont use the forum for your personal vendettas, lets keep it constructive please.

I wasn't Impressed by the video (well maybe just a bit by the graphics), It was like watching the new FIFA 12 video, They are trying to sell you the same product with different tag lines, its really disappointing.