whats your biggest issue (with demo)

[usa plm]

SHOOTING

everything else i can get over

[Jago-ViG]

Refs playing advantage and then not coming back to book players...

(Shooting and keepers I expect to be 'fixed' for release)

[Michu]

I'd plump for goalkeepers, they do seem to dive a little bit too slowly, well more of a fall over action. That said they're still a considerable improvement on previous PES'.

[wayno83]

ball going through keepers hand as if its not there.

keepers positioning shocking why do they always stand so far out.

passing power or lack of most of the time.

when passing backwards occasionally it would do it way to soft as if you wanted to do a lay off for someone.

simple short passes that goes behind the player when its really simple to play it to feet.

playing the ball out wide again for no reason the player will just blast the pass out of play.

1 more passing thing i don't like is when your in attack and you want to pass to someone thats near you the cpu will say no im aiming for the one offside.

pk system to easy.

fk seem alot easier as well.

those stupid scissor kicks are still in the game same problem from 2011 the player doesn't know the correct time to do them.

I've changed the passing thingy from level 0-5 whatever goes to don't really see any difference.

part from all those things i'll probably still buy the game as for me personally i still find fifa unplayable.

[ilyasmad]

1. Goalkeepers incapability to handle soft shots and deflections.

2. Passing is slightly inconsistent; annoying at times.

3. Dribbling and close control to be toned down. Does not feel right when slow defenders have such good close control with r2. Dribbling feels like there is a string attached to his foot and the ball.

4. The opposition sometimes clips/ghost through the defenders.

All could probably be solved by a community or konami patch.

[CACR25]

Micropausing/Stop and go movement when sprinting.

[shaun7]

I want more individuality like pes 11 on the close control. In pes 12, the close control is a bit too good and there isn't enough difference between the players. There is a difference, but not enough to justify it, if that makes sense.

The dribbling and moves and the way the players execute them, has more individuality, but the close control is an issue that needs fixing. It is better than what it was in the first demo, but I want more individuality in the close control that's for sure.

[Anysecondnow]

Goalkeepers!!!

[Michu]

Played it a bit more and my biggest gripe is now the amount of replays in PES. Replays for anything and everything.

[Ali_BWFC]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the fact that a player will walk alongside the ball before trying to collect it.... even when you're controlling him. I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong, but yesterday I played a horizontal through ball to Lahm, he got near the ball, I was trying to direct him towards it, but instead he just walked alongside it and watched it go out of play. It seems like such an obvious flaw, I can't believe they haven't fixed it!

[MozzyEng]

The micro pausing and shooting to me. I know the pausing wont be in the game. I must be missing something with the shooting

[MysteryMan]

Too much...

- Goalkeepers / no explanation needed.

- Reverse catch up bug / completely reversed from last year this year once an attacking player goes past you YOU WILL NOT catch him EVER, even if ur defender has 99 top speed and the attacker has 70 and 70 dribble speed.

- Clips/Ghosting.

- Passing sometimes very weird, when you want to pass the ball to the player behind someone and you ramp it up to full power yet he still passes to the player between you and your target.

- Players still running on rails.

- Close control and technique way too good, and also the difference between someone with 90 or 70 Dribble acc is almost non existant.

- Similar to my point above, every other stat seems to have MUCH less difference than it did in 2011, if someone has 70 or 90 stat the difference is very small, so there is NO INVIDUALITY anymore, one of the main things that made PES so good.

- No acceleration stat, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STATS IN SOCCER. It also means that the burst of pace thingy will be only based on explosive power/agility which is WRONG because someone like Xavi has good agility but he can't burst past players, and in PES 2012 he will just like 90% of other players.

[MikeyM24]

Originally Posted by Sminky

Played it a bit more and my biggest gripe is now the amount of replays in PES. Replays for anything and everything.

It wouldn't be so bad if you could press A to cancel them, like FIFA. Pressing start is a bit awkward.

My major issue is the lack of a closer in camera.

[Michu]

Aye, I agree, I'd like a closer camera angle ... I find it easier to judge dribbling with a closer camera angle

[Makavelian]

Individuality.