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There. You done now, call it a day yeah.

Again, you dont have a clue, There are numerous AI cheating threads for you to educate yourself on, because you obviously didnt know it existed, you can also go on to evo web, and see the reaction on their as the videos were announced for further confirmation. I mean you cant even understand...

I dont follow fifa online games, but yup there was an issue with half way line exploit, but thats been looked at for fifa 10. You boys still waiting for that 70% build of pes to come out right? I mean the fact it got killed at gamescom (and e3) by a game for noobs cant be easy to take. Never...

Wev'e been here before, and we know which game offers more control than the other. Some of the statements on this forum............ Shocking level of knowledge Ive just had one poster tell me the AI in pes 2009 isnt a big problem and that defenders dont run away from attackers or attackers...

A whole paragraph of stuff which means little. Look at your own interpretation of team vision Then look at what I wrote. Please do not tell me the AI in pes can stop exploits and actually stops you doing the same tactics over and over again......it doesnt. Hence youve answered you own...

Very good you pass. Now. 1) The fact that i can take one man and run though entire teams, then run down the wing and cutback and tap in, or fire at the keeper and tap in the rebound, over and over again. Invalidates the above statement 2) Teamvision is seabass talk for advanced scripting...

I might give you some pes lessons later. But you have to pass your exams to get to pes school first. What is teamvision? Answer that without google, and ill consider giving you a proper answer.

Are you being serious???

PES AI............... Where do we even start. Seriously, it seems like alot of you started playing at pes 5 sometimes. Teamvison AI ruined PES, the end.

Here's a tissue.

Seabass is killing pes mate, why people cant see that i dont know. One of the biggest liars in gaming. The things he said about pes 2008 being a great game, then admitted it was half finished and thought about scrapping it, then he said they would only release the next game if it was ready no...

Then pass mate, seriously, doesnt bother me, I dont care which game people play, its just when people make absurd statements about 50% builds being shown at gamescom, cos i dont buy that and if it is true, then seabass should quit.

Totally agree. You know why EA made all those changes to the manager mode? You know why they fine tuned the results, transfer and data? You know why the sorted the ball issues etc? Becuase this bloke listens Twitter him, he might come back to you if he can No fucking lies...

I agree, but what these guys cant get is Not anymore. This David Rutter bloke is a different story, he doesnt fuck about like Seabass. Ask yourself how in 3 years he took a game that got beat like 10 years in a row by pes, and made it the recognised most advanced football game around.

FIFA always gets great reviews................ L-O-L FIFA 09 is the 1st game where the majority of journos declared fifa was better than pes Ive seen fifa get some shocking reviews in the past, which it deserved, cos it was shit.

Both those sites kiss ass professionally. And they are the shittest playtesters ever. I would fucking playtest PES and tell those stupid fucks exactly what does and doesnt need doing. But they dont wanna hear the truth, they like excuses, thats why WENB is their love child.

But you havent seen that one right? Like i keep saying, wait for the reviews. Thats all im gonna say, not even gonna bother with the set peices, the skill dribbling or the manager mode, the new movement cycles, nothing..... Lets just see.... lol.

Ermmm Im gonna make a wild guess mate........ It might not be rubbish. Go on and see the last vid i put up in the fifa thread, with 2 shit players and shitty camera.... Then watch any pes 2010 vid you like. Then you will see why the general consensus coming out of gamescom is that...

Fucking hell, some common sense. This might catch on you know.

Okay, right, so next time we see pes, its gonna look completley different in your opinion right???