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Without going into detail about fifa too much 1) As i said from day one, graphics, its not gonna look much different to 09 2) You can see the 360, look at a fifa vid and then look at any one of the pes threads in here. 3) If you think pes 2010 looks great, good for you mate, your...

Thank you Some Honesty right there. Now, someone tell me, is edit nets in??? If its not, im gonna message david rutter and get him to put in fifa instead. Fucking cracking idea that is, im ashamed to say it, but even when konami was talking about 360, all i could think of...

...................................... Are these 300 movements in the 72.8596% build then?

We'll see. I mean, i dont buy the 'shit players' theory yet, i saw a vid with a bloke passing it around, wasnt horrendous looking, just looked like an update pes 2009, those turning animations are still off as well. Sorry guys, I cant lie about this shit, That gamescom shit aint all...

Whos your money on? Seriously on the fifa forum (i read them, not post, i grew up with pes innit lol) they were saying how good pes was gonna be and how we were gonna have 2 great games. Till those gamescom vids...... lol.

Mate honestly, the general consensus is, once you play fifa 10, you cant touch fifa 09 ever again, no lies, there were people who played the 50% fifa 10 build, andjust couldnt touch fifa 09 again. And for me fifa 09 beat pes 09 hands down, thats my opinion of course. Point is... Wait...

I cant lie, ive seen 2 vids now.... I cant pretend this looks like an amazing step forward, just cant do it. Fair enough, im sure the user content will be real nice. But in terms of actual gameplay, this doesnt cut it for me. On the net right now, the response isnt great, particulary...

Look, its happening again, talk about builds, everytime pes is under par, they start using builds as an excuses, its getting so tiring From pesfan “I’ll make a few comments regarding what your seeing. This is a much cut down version of the game with only 4 teams and lots of other...

Ive just seen the pes gamecom vids, and boy, ea must be pissing themselves. Right from the beggining I picked fifa for the win this year. The secret is their engine, ive always said that, it just allows far more realism. The way the players move is nuts, no rushing about like headless...

Ill try to take a more in depth look, but talking about the gameplay itself, im actually shocked after seeing that video. Konami actually had me thinking this was gonna be the game, i always thought fifa would be better this year, but a few days ago I though they had seriously closed the gap...

You know what, didnt even realise these vids were, till i saw the fifa forum guys pissing themselves at this shit, so took a look. That 360 movement doesnt look right to me, looks fucking real rigid. Passing animations might be better, think tackling animations might have improved as well...

Watching one of the vids now............ Not impressed, where's the 360 gone?, it still looks rigid And check out those running animations........ Still looks like one man can take on whole teams you know. What the fuck???

Yes mate! bout time. No jockey button mate, check out the fifa10 thread tho, will see in you there. ---------------------------------------------------------------- To Janus 909 Damn, already posted eh? But tell me what you think of it though, im about to watch it now. Come on...

If you have, mods please kill this thread GzdBIIaaYNw If not, discuss.

Okies mate, got it, thanks. Ive got 360 btw. lol.

Where's perfect strik? 360 on a d-pad? Can that happen? Shit, seems like it can.

360 football on d pad???? Is that possible?

Agreed to an extent. I still want confirmation from Konami on what the deal is 16 way? 360? they need to come out a clarify EXACTLY what movement is available Just like FIFA releasing FULL details on exactly what degrees are availble when jogging, sprinting etc.

I just wanna clear this up Konami told people there would be no 360 this year Now apprently there is, but only on ps3. Fuck that. I wanna hear Konami say it, or someone tells me the EXACT dimesions of movement.

Thats why im calling for people to hold fire. And when i say hold fire...........you know there is an issue. Im not even convinced its going to be on ps3, i wanna see it for myself or get CLEAR CUT details on the exact dimensions of movement Its insane Ive heard the following in the...