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It is if you employ the same age old tactics to score that have always existed and can't apparently be removed with the current engine.

Are you using all the controls that Fifa offers though?

I've been playing it for a few days and every goal has been pretty standard Pro Evo really. That's not always a bad thing, but the difficulty of Fifa on "legendary" makes scoring very satisfying. Nearly scored an "RVP against Charlton" style volley with Rosicky earlier using the manual cross...

Can someone please explain in detail how every game in Fifa is identical? I see it is a common opinion and am a tad baffled as to what facts it is based on?

I have to say that i disagree completely. Fifa plays a great passing game, and when you switch on manual crossing you can put some sick crosses in, plonking them just outside the area for somebody to run onto and volley. The good thing about this is that it takes some mastering to get your...

My game ID is senor_bef and my PSN ID is trigglebeef. Unfortunately I have pretty much fully converted to the darkside with Fifa now, so my Pro Evo playing will be very limited.

I was wrong to put my faith in Konami to sort out the online fully. I thought if FIFA and pretty much every other game works fine worldwide then why shouldn't Pro Evo.

Anyone in this situation i'm sure has figured out that it's impossible to get a decent connection with anyone in Europe (if you can then tell me how you did it!!!). So what i want to do is see how good it will play if i play somebody else in the USA with a UK/EU version. My game ID is...

That's exactly right. I think there's every chance with both games, you're only going to get out what you put in. I just feel at the moment like Fifa plays more like an evolved Pro Evo of the golden days (a few years back) than Pro Evo does. I'm just going to have to play them both to death...

I understand why they say that, but i think it's probably due to the fact that they aren't willing to take the next step and master the art of dribbling etc. so they get bored with just pass pass pass. I'm personally enjoying the challenge of mastering it, and more and more entertaining things...

Having a PS3, i couldn't give a toss about how Fifa is on the PC, so i think it's a pretty weak reason for Pro Evo being a better game. I really do hope that everyone is right about Pro Evo getting better and better and better the more you play, because right now i'm honestly enjoying Fifa...

If it was just a couple of reviews i'd accept your point, but when it's about 20 or more, i'd say your clutching at loose straws bud. Sorry. P.S. Just had a bosh on PES 5 on the PS2. Looks a bit shady now, but the basics of the gameplay are probably still untouched by any other football game.

Trust me mate, you're one of the lucky ones who can actually get online to enjoy a good old shitty lagfest. Feel privileged!

Fifa hasn't been out for 2 months, so what version are you talking about? Or are you lying? I've had Fifa for just over a week, and am enjoying it more and more all the time. It feels closer to a real game of footy than any game ever, despite still having flaws. I'm working on mastering...

Can you save your legend when they are at their peak, so you can carry on into the twighlight of your career without having to play with an old, shit one online? If so, can you save all your legends in a different file to the standard game data, if you want to do the mode multiple times over...

I tell you as a die hard Pro Evo fanboy for what seems like forever, I am currently enjoying Fifa a lot more than Pro Evo. Hopefully time will prove Pro Evo to be better, beacuse it makes me a bit sick in the mouth that i appear to be going to the dark side.

Have they sorted out the "an error occuered" bullshit yet? the useless pricks!

Like i said, It's because Konami's servers are dog shit, or they've made a hash of doing the code for the online part. Probably a big, filthy mix of both.

Fix has always been an option, basically the same thing.

If they had the same quality of servers as EA it wouldn't. There's only the slightest difference between onlin and offline on FIFA, nomatter who you play against. Even 10v10 is smooth as a babies arse.