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Or maybe you're under rating them. They did win the league undefeated after all, and are still undefeated this season. I don't like Juve either, but credit where credit's due. I fully agree with the comments about Overall Rating being misleading. It draws your attention and makes you judge...

Ah shame, thanks for pointing me in the right direction but no luck over there. I'll keep hunting or maybe just manually edit some teams using the stats etc that you guys have posted. I can't seem to edit kits in the patch I'm using though which is obviously a nuisance

superpav u remind me of myself a few weeks ago :-) with the amount of time it's taken you to decide you could have bought it from the slowest online retailer & be playing it by now! Hunter did you spot my earlier post? £18.85 including delivery, PC version, ShopTo. Fast & efficient service

It's been entirely trouble free for me except for what I mentioned earlier & the install was quick & easy, it's really surprising to read of so many problems. The patch is fantastic & I'd highly recommend it. I could do with knowing the answers to my edit questions though if you're still about...

There's another thread here debating whether the PES gods have over or under rated some players. It seems as if the Smoke system has updated some stats for some players to make up for some Konami errors, making them much more true to life in my opinion. For example, Mario Gomez was only...

PC compatibility? This all looks great guys well done. dogrunning, are your team imports just for PS3 or is it possible to use them on PC? Thanks

Thanks. That is a ridiculous feature. In real life new boots might improve your comfort, maybe your control, acceleration, turning etc but only by a tiny bit, and they could make all of the above worse as well. Waste of resources from Konami.

Credit where credit's due Credit to BATE, they've had a brilliant start. It's great to see the Champions League wealth being spread to some of the so called smaller nations, it's no fun when it's the same teams winning every year

Does it really matter though? Do your players perform better with new boots or is it purely for appearance? I've not started an ML yet so forgive the newbie question

Spot on Exactly, I don't see the point of the whole boots thing, and I really don't see why it would ruin someone's enjoyment of the game!

Editing kit Hi guys I was wondering, do you have to make your own team & kit in Edit mode BEFORE you start ML? Back in the PS2 days it was part of the startup process for the ML. Also, once you get going can you edit your kit when you want? Say once every two season for example -...

Definitely. It gets too samey with just one league's teams in there. I haven't started a Master League yet but when I do I'll probably keep the big leagues as they are then make up at least one super league kinda thing with the top teams from Holland, Portugal, Russia, Turkey etc - kinda like...

Sorry guys, but does anyone else wonder what the point of this feature is? I'd much rather Konami put their efforts and resources elsewhere

Bayern Munich deserve credit! Forgive me if I cause offence, but I'm guessing that most of the people who think that Robben & Ribery are overrated don't watch much football outside of the English Premier League and Barca-Real. Bayern Munich and the Bundesliga on the whole are underrated by most...

Pc £18.85 I would also prefer to buy from a high street store but in the end I used ShopTo to buy the PC version for £18.85 including postage! http://www.shopto.net/pc/PCPR32-pes-2013-pro-evolution-soccer-2013 Ordered on a Saturday, arrived on the Tuesday, can't complain at that!

Kit editing Hi mate Please forgive what might be a total newbie question, but is it normal that I can't edit any of the kits? Its not that I want to alter any of your fantastic work, but I was thinking of editing a couple of the lesser Championship teams to replace them with one or two...

Great work! Hey DidoSmokeMan Your patch is fantastic, Konami should be paying you, you add so much value to the game. It must take you ages to do all this, but even simple things like the player names being in lower case is a nice improvement. Thank you for all your time and efforts. I'm...