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thought there was gonna be an unlicensed german league in th game, like the english one...no?

EH DOUBT IT... wats goin on wit the avatars

Transfer window will be closed... its just gonna be an update

I think before we get into this again like the last 40 threads on this... i think if this version is bad then konami will lose business and peopel will shift to fifa... and it will keep happening until konami cop on and fix it... think we should all just wait and see what happens wit this, no...

i cant see those links...

interview could have been a bit more adventourous... lota pointless qustions about being able to edit stuff u always could in the masterleague etc... not alot about animations, movement, pace, shooting and how players feel hen moving...

SIGH....... iv got a 101% build in my pants, anyone want a shot?

ok, would it be fair to say its too common? too many booking fot it?

Rules are rules...... i got booked for double posting.. nice and fair in here i see

Tech, youv been banging on about LOGIC for a while now, it obvious theres none here for you so why are you here, sitting at your computer complaining that theres no logic, isnt it illlogical for you to be somewhere where theres no logic if you crave it so much?? if you want logic go find it! its...

Wonder if there sitting on FIFA forums talking about how bad fifa looks and how much better pes will be, then going around in circles arguing again again ............... best check

ye 2009 was the worst so far, even 08 had the old ball physics and was easy to use, 09 changed that and made it confusing, all you need is henri camara to win a game, and not being able to control the keepers was a let down

Ah logic, im logical enough to not get into raging debates and get myself banned for a while.. the fact is pes can put whatever they want in, like lets be honest the things you mentioned are in real life and would be implemented into any sports game, i wonder what game first used real money, not...

Like new coke and classic coke....they may have tried to starve the market, so they reall could build a great game in pes2010 and make us all buy it... then again maybe they thought they took the old pes as far as they could and needed a change, 1,2,3 wer similar games, 4,5,6 wer changes towards...

suppose pes arent allowed update their game and take stuff that are part of modern day football... sorry wait fifa invented scouts didnt they and real money... theres a difference between emulating fifa and emulating real football.....

PES had gone back to the old days of pro evo 6, the one 4 years ago, the game has proggressed but not the way we wanted it to so they changed there approach and realisied that PRO 6 was their best to date and tried making the new one like that, anyway, if pro was so far ahead of fifa back then...

Anyone notice how small the players in fifa look in comparision with the pitch...

Fifa looks pretty good....shame it wont actually look anything like that, wish theyd show real gameplay for theses vids...

It usually is the last friday of the month allright, im guessing the 23rd aswell, but if you pre order online your could get it on the wedensday, and if you ring on the thursday to see if some shops released it early they might have it.

any german team in european competition could be licensed... and as far as i know a fake german league is in... also its more then one spanish team not in, about 10 arent fully licensed..