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i had shaw show up in my 2nd season in 2008 but in 2009 he just popped up in 2016... so it is random and yeah, palmieri is pretty good for a youngest but 2009 came out so i didn't get to use him in 2008... how does he turn out? if i remember right his stats would make him a perfect...

you have way too many players..high expense..... and most of them are just plain terrible sorry... except for kaiser and diego.

not bad not bad... but i suggest these changes agger> kompany ramos>m. richards essien> kaiser fabregas is ok but i prefer hamsik, clichy> drenthe solimar> hong yam nan

lmao... i wonder whats the most you can offer for a player? i remember in 2008 i tried to get ronny too but ended up failing after offering about 70 or 80k i dont think i could go higher.. but really in 2009 ronny is just too good, all stats are above 96 for mine. and 3500 salary...

bradley!!! shaw, ramon, i chol yun

omg how can you only have won one game?????? you guys should check out the players i have, besides the big names the rest are all cheap and young most grow to around 90, and if you use them alot, i've had estimate peak of 85 reach 95

wow you are sad.. why would you need to cheat in ML? its not like you can ever lose...and having to play with arshavin when his position says GK will decrease his usefullness in the game wont it? i tend to just wait till i have enough rep and points and the buythe players normally i get...

does anyone know how to add the 1.20 patch to a pc version? i downloaded my 2009 as a non installation file, so i cant really install the patch since the directory is technically nonexistent. please help!!!!!

ok then what if i'm playing on PC?....

but when i install the patch, it says the program doesn't exist, isit because i downloaded my copy and the installer cant find the directory?

hey guys how do i get manutd's brazillian twins? i'm not sure which update to get. also would players like orellano and shaw be availabe in the update?

orellanos been around for a while in the older PES's hes one of the young players that everyone appreciates to have on their team, though on mine he rarely had any good form

hey how come i cant find rafael or fabio da silva? are they only shown in the end of season window?

yeah i got messi in 3rd season with manu. cost me about 26000 + nani and 5 years contract of 2800 i think. i had a 46% chance of signing him got him on the second try, its just luck i suppose....

i would have to say its giovinco and hamsik. giovinco is like a miniture ronaldo in my team i sub him for either ronaldo or rooney and hamsik is just a wonderful midfield he plays all the midfield positions but putting in anything other than amf and cmf is a watse i reckon

personally i say shimizu is crap... if you want someone short and fast sign giovinco from juventus.. hes amazing or try shaw.. but i havent seen shaw since i played 2008 so i guess hes not in the game any more

i think you're not using him properly or its just your stupid luck.. no offense i have him on my team.. hes so good that the defender have no choice but to tackle him. foe me he mostly just falls, carried off and comes back on, he doesn't get the injury mark very often for me.

you guys wanna se my team? GK yohann pele LB michah richards BR walton CB ferdinand CD chielini DMF vanden boore CMF hamsik AMF messi AMF ronaldo SS rooney CF adriano SUBS: diego, kompany, drenthe, and i cant remember the rest... fourth season with manu

nah i think it depends on the player and how much you use them... my henry was still growing in 2008 despite his development predictions were going down.

Hey guys just asking are all the players in 2008 still in 2009? coz i'm sure some are missing, or maybe they just havent shoed themselves yet.. and also recommend some players for others, thanks merry christmas