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Great post! The only flaw goalkeepers have in my opinion is that everybody (especially online) is finding it too easy to go round the keeper for the empty net goal. But at the end of the day I need to get my tactics and defending in order to stop people going 1 on 1 with my keeper so it's...

If the demo was blocked 2 weeks ago because Microsoft need 10 days to verify a demo before they put it on the marketplace then is there not a small chance that the first demo will be out tomorrow? Fingers crossed?!!

Yes, I'm pretty sure Jon Murphy said that the stumbling animations had gone during that video blog he did!

Have you seen any of these so far in PES 12 gameplay videos?

It looks fantastic! I do have concerns like others that the overlapping full backs will happen ALL the time so they will never be defensive but lets hope there will be strategies to fiddle around with in the formation screen to change the mentality of defenders when we need them to be more...

I've never actually conceded a goal to this so it seems pointless! Just select a player from kick off and run back as others have said or bring your keeper out as soon as they lob it forward and he will get there first and head/kick it away 99% of the time!

They're useless in Fifa 11 too apart from pissing people off as someone above mentioned! My mate used to do them all the time when I went to his flat so I just used to crush him with the old ping pong passing and tapping the shoot button when 1 on 1. What a lame game!

I really wouldn't! Its like creating 11 players with 99 stats and all the player cards and then playing an offline master league. What's the point?

Because some plonkers would create super human players if this was possible!

Too bloody right they are, especially Amateur! They should just arrange to get together! It would be love at first sight!

The guy's on a different planet!

Good man! I'm so looking forward to reading Amatuer's response. Not! Although I too would love the chance to beat him on Pes 11 and put him in his place! :happy:

Bloody hell, nice "little" 2.57am post by Amateur! Have you ever tried to get this left analog stick concept over to Konami? So you want the players to be able to move in all directions while still standing on the spot? And move the ball around in the same spot also? How easy do you think...

They normally announce it in advance of release so whenever it does get announced we'll be a week off getting it anyway. I'm very interested to see what they do with the Online Master League in terms of boosting/decreasing stats. I think they will go for the safe option and leave stats...

I don't mind them lofting over a chipped through ball from kick off every time really because it gives me the ball back straight away! I'm the same as you, I pass it straight out to one of my wingers from kick off (whichever one is marked the least depending on my opponents formation).

The goalkeepers seem a lot better than the other xbox 360 PES games to me! Am I in the minority? They are not perfect but don't make as many mistakes as they did on PES 08, 09 and 10.

This is such a cheap kick off! You wonder why the people that do this every time bother playing football games!

At least the Fifa 11 nonces are still waiting for their update too! ;-) And Jon Murphy has been painfully quiet in the last 2 weeks!

I'm talking about stopping the ball coming into the box in the first place! I've been getting better at predicting when someone is going to take my full back on the outside and triple tap. Foul them if you have to! But they can be stopped!

You can stop crosses if you are any good at the game!