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It would be good if you could rile the opposition team as a whole and cause a really dirty match - dont know how this would be implemented

I last night tried wide for the first time having previously been playing on default long and what a difference it has made, I can see more runs off the ball, the opponents crowded penalty area is no longer a problem as on this new view I can see short passes and a way through - it improves the...

well that is that sorted then! :rolleyes:

I used owen and used the old pes 2 trick of running back and forth along the 18 yrd line until I got the chance to shoot - took me a while though

I have spoken to Gameplay, whom I ordered the game from, they say that if konami release a fresh batch of stutter free games they would not swap the game as thay (Gameplay) do not consider it to be a serious problem. They said that any swaps would have to be done directly with Konami.

I am officially pants at all the tricks etc, have only just mastered the r2 sidestep thingy

but his utter crapnes is what makes him a legend

sorry no.1 should be pass back to player a

Basically when you play a one-two this is what happens - you in control of a player (player a) you then pass use L1 & X to your team mate (player b). Once you have passed you assume control of Player B, when you have posession of the ball, Player A the makes the return run and you have the...

I can no longer notice the stutter, I only saw it once last night. When I first played the game I noticed it a lot more. So either I have become immune to it or it is happening less - i dont know which.

care to enlighten us Uberone

In my opinion PC's and football games (apart from the CM series) dont mix, it just doesnt feel right sitting on a chair infront of a tiny monitor on your own, i would rather have worse graphics on the PS2 and play it on my 42 inch plasma tv with surround sound whilst sat on my couch - although...

will give that a go when i get home from work tonight

you mis understand me, I do not want to change my tactics eevry game, if I want players to make forward runs I should be able to get them to do it without having to place more men upfront. I could change my tactics to simply outnumber the cpu team but i feel that that is the 'easy'way...

Surely if both games were great, each would push the other to greater things - competition is good mmmkay.

I know PES2 was too easy and I feel PES 3 is tons better but in all my years of watching football I have yet to see a team defend by placing around eight men actually inside the box, i have nothing against teams putting players behind the ball but all in the area is just plain unrealistic...

Being better then your competitors is no reason to stop striving for perfection though and i feel that the lack of runs of the ball is a real issue. Could some one also explain the two attacking arrows you can apply - how does the player choose which one to use? The only way I have...

Fair play Giggsy, its just that I didnt think I was whinging or being petty and believe that I have the right to reply when being slandered.

No you have not hit a raw nerve and nor have you substantiated your claim that I am a petty whinger - you say you are debating, well the topic of the thread is what good and bad about PES, please show me where, in your two posts, you have debated this. I have told you some of the things I...