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lol... two years ago, with the advent of FIFA 08 and PES 6, I said the PES series was going down the crapper and FIFA is on the rise... Albeit, PES09 is an ok offering, it's just really frustrating that the problems this game suffers from are those that directly affect the way you're able to...

I predicted this a year ago after PES6's and FIFA 07's inception. Anyone who has been here bickering with me can attest to this. I knew it was going to happen, and it seems that it has. PES and FIFA have effectively changed roles in the market.

I know you don't think he's perfect... I just think that you think that he's doing much more than I believe he is doing to develope this game. And I'm also just saying, I hope it doesn't let you down in ANY way. You're so ready for the release.. almost like the Halo junkies.

Good grief, Jake. I hope you love this game to DEATH. You're making Seabass out to be some patron saint to football simulation, when in fact, he is no more than a business man. I mean, he's good at what he does... just not great... exactly like his game.

He kind of, uuuuhhh... said it... up there. The comp doesn't cheat. It just favors itself.

HOLY SHIT. That would be the reason why I ALWAYS beat those Brazil using cunts with Norway online in that version. The first time I used them I was just messing around and used them because of Riise's thunder leg and time after time after that(because I thought it was me playing well with...

Either that... or that when you scored in PES you were vanquishing that 'cheating bastard CPU' that you had had it in for every time you played the game ever since you started playing it... That's the way I was anyway. I'll still give the new version a shot.... who knows, I might retract...

Well, you're right. I don't. That's why I pay money for products made by people who do. You'd think that they'd notice these silly little quirks and phase them out upon release. I GUESS NOT THOUGH, BAH.

Nah, Pacman... what you're saying is probably going to be the normal reaction of people who are no longer blinded by the PES light. The people who like it will continue to say that it keeps on surpassing itself year after year. But, the select few who really want a down to earth SIMULATION of...

I suppose thats true to a certain degree. I mean, the people that have never really been into the game of football itself might have a good time being blissfully unaware of how lacking PES is. BUT, all the people I've exposed PES to have said that it's too realistic... in that, playing for...

If I can get but one person to put down the controller and lace up the boots, I've done my job... doubly so if I can get another American to do it. Plus, this site would be dull as hell without people like myself who stir the shit once in a while.

It's a marketing ploy. They're planning ahead for next years game... and the next year, they'll do the same thing. It's a perpetual cycle of customer dissatisfaction leading to customer hopefulness that the developer will right the wrongs. They've been doing it for a good, long time now...

HAHAHA, I KNEW IT. USA got shafted. All of these WE haters are starting to come out of the woodwork. I LOVE IT.

HAHAHAH... If watching Brazil and Brazil try and fuck each other over with crappy goals and cheap play makes the game good then the game is AWESOME. And from what I saw online, there were only about 5 different people who could consistently keep a 3 bar connection. I have cable internet and...

It's because they spent oo much time making that new techno guitar riff for the after match highlights. Obviously that was more important to them than making the game fun to play and edit.

Thats AI for you.

lol no it's not. The online community is full of liars, cheaters, assholes, and there are absolutly no english speakers to speak of. Not to mention that even when there are two people with good connections playing, there is STILL the one survival half and one catch up half. You're not missing...

Well, why the hell can't they leave it like it is instead of tweaking EVERY damn year. It went from pretty decent in PES4 to pretty damn good in PES5 to utter crap in PES6/WE2007. Is it that they just don't know what the hell they're doing? Or is it that they're screwing up an aspect of the...

Heh, you all can have these shams then.

I'm well and truly finished with video games, period. Apparently, you can't accurately reproduce the intuitiveness and creativity of a REAL football team. So why even try? They've had countless attempts to replicate the game for what it is. In my opinion, they have failed. There is more...