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club or country?

Travis Bickle

not to be taken seriously
Am I losing it or is there a major difference when playing with club teams than country.

I mean that tactically the club teams seem to be more aware, they move forward better and just generally work better together, is it that Konami have more information about club selection and managerial tactics that they can make club sides more realistic or am I just playing pes too much.

Also wheres the thread about the differences between pes3 and we7 I think zyg wrote it, I'd like to read it.
 

Winning 11

Registered User
It all depends..I`m sure a good club team like Arsenal FC, or Real Madrid CF can beat France or Brazil ( I put those two because they`re the strongest countries IMO ). But you are right - club teams play better and cooperate better with eachother - and this is not because KONAMI programmed the game, it`s like a natural thing.. even in real life watching club vs club football match seems alot different then when you watch country vs country.. and some differences between PES3 and WE7 are:

PES3 has faster gameplay ( it doesn`t matter if you play on 50Hz or 60Hz the gameplay is alot faster than WE7 ).

Juventus FC, and Feyenoord are licensed in PES3 but not in WE7 ( they will be in WE7:I tho ) .

in WE7 you play with Adidas fevernova ball, in PES3 you play with Champions League ball..and PES3 has only one ball (CL) but in WE7 you can unlock another ball to play with..it`s adidas as well..

WE7 offers more boots than PES3 does.
WE7 offers slower & more realistic gameplay - the ball seems alot heavier in WE7 not like a balloon that is in PES3.

PES3 is in English and can be switched to Spanish, German, French..etc..while WE7 is only in Japanese.

IMHO I think WE7 offers better graphics as well..sometimes you get that foggy picture when playing PES3 and especially when playing on different stadiums..

That`s about it.. WE7 is more playable than PES3 is. Even tho people say PES3 has better AI , I really haven`t been able to confirm this 100%.
 

t1000v2.0

Registered User
PES3 on 60hz is slower, and a more real pace....atleast on my tv anyways. But I stick with the pc verison now, better graphics, better game speed, official kit patches...and it's really growing on me now. Best version of the lot...except when i play against a mate, then its on PS2.
 

Giggsy11

Registered User
Why do u try and turn every thread into a disscusion on which game is better between we7 and pes3? Eksol?

no offense :)
 
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Winning 11

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Giggsy11 said:
Why do u try and turn every thread into a disscusion on which game is better between we7 and pes3? Eksol?

Hmm..maybe because I want to. I don`t see anything wrong with it. Are you fucking blind man.. this is what he wrote:

" Also wheres the thread about the differences between pes3 and we7 I think zyg wrote it, I'd like to read it. "

And I told him my honest opinion..and what about you running your big mouth about FIFA 2004 being good and all that shit - you never stop, do ya ?
 

Winning 11

Registered User
By the way, t1000v2.0 - I own PES3 as well... and when the game loads I get to select what HZ mode I wanna play. If I select 50Hz then the screen will be black and white if I go to 60Hz mode then the color will show up..so I judged PES3 by playing on 60Hz and the gameplay is still faster..but it seems that Giggsy11 lost his internet girlfriend or something..
 

Giggsy11

Registered User
eksol said:
Hmm..maybe because I want to. I don`t see anything wrong with it. Are you fucking blind man.. this is what he wrote:

" Also wheres the thread about the differences between pes3 and we7 I think zyg wrote it, I'd like to read it. "

And I told him my honest opinion..and what about you running your big mouth about FIFA 2004 being good and all that shit - you never stop, do ya ?

I didn't say a word about FIFA, if he wanted to see about the PES3/WE7 discussion then u should have found the link not posted info about it because it ruins the thread, we need to keep to the subjects of the thread. :)
 

Travis Bickle

not to be taken seriously
eksol said:
PES3 has faster gameplay ( it doesn`t matter if you play on 50Hz or 60Hz the gameplay is alot faster than WE7 ).

WE7 offers slower & more realistic gameplay - the ball seems alot heavier in WE7 not like a balloon that is in PES3.

IMHO I think WE7 offers better graphics as well..sometimes you get that foggy picture when playing PES3 and especially when playing on different stadiums..

That`s about it.. WE7 is more playable than PES3 is. Even tho people say PES3 has better AI , I really haven`t been able to confirm this 100%.


Why do they change these things, do they do questionnaires about Eastern and Western opinions on how football is played.

And do they have heavier balls in Japan or something.

Also when everyone goes on about the PC version being better, what about the whole touch sensitive buttons. Is this actually implemented into the game or do I just think it is because I think it should be and it was the only good thing about fifa on the ps2.
 

Winning 11

Registered User
In my honest opinion, I believe that KONAMI puts more effort on programming their games than they do for other countries. And I don`t blame them. There`s tons of good games released in Japan that we don`t know or never heard of. So that being said, KONAMI makes better football games for Japanese release than they do anywhere else. I know Giggsy11 will complain about this so don`t even reply.
 

Madeiras

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don't give a f*** about the discussion........... but got to admit, Winning 11 as got a point.... a very good point.................
 
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