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- I wanna apologise to WE7 fans - !!!

Winning 11

Registered User
Hi there..,

I`m here to apologise to every fan of WE7, and here`s why..

All this talk about PES3 vs WE7 and PES3 being ALOT better than WE7 is a total bullshit. There were a few threads marked as "PES3 vs WE7" and the newer thread where a mate said PES3 was much better than WE7 and I was supporting his opinion. Well I was a fool - and I way WAY WAY wrong. As many of you know I have both WE7 and PES3. I got WE7 on August 11th I believe..and I`ve played maybe 10 matches only - for some reason I wasn`t too excited or happy. So all this talk about PES3 on this board I decided to buy PES3 as well - so my PES3 arrived aroung October 23rd. So since then I`ve been playing it until yesterday. I read what Larsson had to say and GFK and other mates. So I played WE7 last night, then some more today and I`m telling you WE7 is ALOT and I mean ALOT better than PES3. I can`t believe the biggest football fans continent (EUROPE) gets screwed by KONAMI. I guess KONAMI puts alot of more effort in creating WINNING ELEVEN SERIES ( for Japanese people & along with North America *USA* ) then they do for PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER (Europe). They should focus more on building a game that will dominate the entire Europe. I did alot of research on the internet and ALOT of people agree that WE7 is alot better in every way than PES3 is. And when I speak alot of people I mean European countries, Asia, Africa, Middle East, and yes even the United States. If you don`t believe me what I1m saying do a search yourself and you`ll see the results. Now here are some reasons why WE7 is better than PES3:

- WE7 offers better (slower) gameplay which makes the game VERY realistic. My PES3 plays on 60Hz and it`s still alot faster than WE7. I can`t imagine how would it be if I played on 50Hz.
- Passing is much better, the players cooperate with eachother and if you use your brain the right way they`ll make sure that the ball gets to the right man or a target.
- Now this is a BIG thing for me. In PES3 the ball just seems too small and too light. So when you do long passes the ball is so fast and it just feels so light it`s like the wind is blowing 100 kilometers per hour (totally unrealistic). Now in PES3 the players look way too small compared to WE7. I use Broadcast 3 camera and the players still look small, and it`s not my vision I have a great vision but the players are too small on the pitch.
- In WE7 players move and run way better than they do in PES3. What I mean is when you move slowly with your player you`ll notice that they either walk or run very slowly, while in PES3 players only run or even when moving slowly they seem to walk like robots on batteries. Now the real TEST to this is when you use Broadcast 3 camera and when the camera aims at your player - do you see any difference the way players move in PES3 and WE7 ?? you just can`t miss it.
- I don`t have any stutter bug in my WE7 or in my PES3 so both games play very smooth. However when I play PES3 I can1t hear any noice in my PS2 the cd spins without making any noice but when I insert WE7 dics in a tray I hear alot of spinning noice whish is very anoying.
- WE7 is alot harder and the computers defense is much tighter. Dribbling is hard as well but it can be done if you use Zidane or Davids :).
- Is it me or WE7 offers better graphics..what I mean is like when I play PES3 no matter what stadium I choose to play on it`s foggy, while in WE7 I get a better picture. This is not because PES3`s format is PAL (I have modded PS2 with DMS3 V2.0 it can`t get any better) and my TV set is just perfect - so IMO graphics are better in WE7.
- PES series need to get better commentary. PES3 offers poor commentary and I can`t stand it. They need to improve this section. Even though I don`t speak or understand Japanese the commentary is better.

This is about it, I`m sure there`s alot of other things that I need to discover, but I don`t wanna make this thread long as it already is. Any PES3 fan should not be offended because of this thread. Keep in mind, this is only my opinion and my beliefs. I strongly recommend that all of you WE fans buy WE7:I. From what I`m hearing it`s going to be better than WE7 - more polished, with new stadiums, you`ll be able to change keepers outfits and stadium names are editable. Juventus FC along with Feyenoord are licensed (PES3 already has) and the game will offer few international languages so make sure to get a copy of it..


have a great day all of you - and happy holidays & stay safe.

:)
 

larsson

Administrator
Nice post mate, but I think comparing WE7 with PES3 is ok, both games are great. I also don´t think there are many people out there who say WE7 is great and PES3 isn´t, I think everyone here is a WE AND PES fan, but some people prefer the Japanese version and some people the European. :)
btw I´ve downloaded the WE7:Int movie (cjshp gave the link I guess) and it looks very nice, unfortunately it´s 100 MB but only 4 minutes, and most of the time you see only the intro which is the same like in WE7, so 70 % of the clip are useless. Like you said Feyenoord and Juve are also licensed, like in PES3, it seems that nike is now the sponsor, at least there is a nike logo at the beginning of the intro. This would be good news coz I think nike has some nice shoes ;)
 

Zygalski

Administrator
larsson, I'd like to see this video too. Link?

eksol, not sure what you mean by saying PES3 is "foggy". Are you using the same day/night/weather settings?
 

Giggsy11

Registered User
eksol if you prefer we7 over pes3 (or vice-verser) then thats your opinion, if anyone likes we7 over pes3 then thats up to them. :)
 

Winning 11

Registered User
Zygalski said:
larsson, I'd like to see this video too. Link?

eksol, not sure what you mean by saying PES3 is "foggy". Are you using the same day/night/weather settings?

No matter what settings I use I still don`t get that crystal clear picture view. Like I said, it`s not up to my TV or my PS2 it`s because WE7 has better clearer picture. It`s like watching a football match on a normal TV then you watch the same match on LCD tv. WE7 is like LCD and PES3 is like a normal TV.. big difference..
 

Winning 11

Registered User
Larsson - is that because you`re using a dial up so your connection is very slow or it`s because their server is slow ?? I have a cable internet service it`s pretty fast 1MB per-sec but for some reason it still takes a long time..I aborted the downloading last night.
 

larsson

Administrator
eksol said:
Larsson - is that because you`re using a dial up so your connection is very slow or it`s because their server is slow ?? I have a cable internet service it`s pretty fast 1MB per-sec but for some reason it still takes a long time..I aborted the downloading last night.

I have ADSL, 768 kb/s maximum. Most of the time I had 1,5 kb/s download-speed. I think the servers are slow.
 

Winning 11

Registered User
Just played a game between England (myself) vs Turkey. I beat them 4-1 ( 3 star *** level ) - Old Trafford was crowded and noisy as usual :D . What amazes me in the WE7 gameplay is when other team is losing by 2 or more goals they totally lose their confidence which gives me the advantage to score a few extra goals in the last minutes. Just like in a real life match - remember Holland vs Scotland 6-1 or something - that`s how this match England VS Turkey went. The gameplay is better than PES3`s as well.. and counter attacks look so damn realistic in one point my brother in law walked in my room and saw me playing it he thought it was a real football match - what a fool :D
 

GFK

Registered User
Well Im glad you have seen the light eksol. AS you all know I prefer we7 too. Im not saying PES3 is bad, but when I play PES3 Im always thinking about WE7 well thats not good eh? With PES3 I have a hate-love relation on the other side, english commetary and few extra animations, but on the other side after playing a couple matches with PES3 I want to play We7. WE7 just plays better,sharper I dont know but one thing is for sure I will play WE7 a lot more then PES3.
By the way nice, simple post Eksol you made a lot clear for people!

Cheers
 

Giggsy11

Registered User
In pes3 they loose there confidents as well, their is an attribute for it i think (mentalty) which makes the player play worse when their team is loosing
 

Winning 11

Registered User
PES3 = GOOD
WE7 = GREATEST

PES3 = 9.5
WE7 = 10.10 :) and I think WE7:I will be even better than both of them..
 

Wiserommer

Registered User
ive actually only started play WE7 today and OMG what a game...pro3 i thought was better since it came of the same graphics engine they would of had time to improve..but WE7 is well better lmao
 

rshen

Registered User
eksol, if you have ever tried WE6 or earlier versions, you will really get annoyed when playing WE7, though personally I love WE7 -:)

those Konami programmers really need to use their heads to think, why so many !@#$%^& hand balls?

that's the most ridiculous bit in this game.
 

Winning 11

Registered User
I have WE6:I (USA Version) that`s PES2 and at that time I loved it. Then I got a patched version of WE6:FE and I was even more amazed..then WE7 came out and so far it`s the best.
 

f3n1xtx

Registered User
i'm with you, winning eleven 7 is the best of all and lets hope the latter series will be better!
CHEERS!
 

Winning 11

Registered User
Oh no doubt bro. We can all expect only the best out of WE future releases. I can`t wait for WE8 - by the way when do you think WE8 will be released ?? I heard a funny rumor going on around that KONAMI will have WE8 ready for an online play - ??
 

ratty123

Registered User
from my experience, the only difference between we7 and pes3 is tha ball seems heavier on we7. i can see how that difference is significant enough for people to have preferences for we7. to be honest other than that, it is exactly the same game.
 

larsson

Administrator
ratty123 said:
from my experience, the only difference between we7 and pes3 is tha ball seems heavier on we7. i can see how that difference is significant enough for people to have preferences for we7. to be honest other than that, it is exactly the same game.

Nope, the keepers are much better in WE7 at crosses and the gameplay is slower.
 
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