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Ideas for MLO2012 - Divisional ranking system.

Are you happy with the way divisional promotion/relegation is calculated in MLO?

  • Yes - It is fine how it is.

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • No - Implement a new system that is fairer and more fun

    Votes: 8 80.0%

  • Total voters
    10

gunnerglow

Registered User
Please vote so we know what the community feels about the current system used to rank teams in order for promotion/relegation.

For a start, I would prefer quick match to be renamed divisional match, your opponent when searching for this match must be within your division.

Currently it is possible to start a week on 500 points, draw 1 game against an opponent with 520 ranking points and gain enough points to be promoted. Hardly realistic in reality now is it? What incentive is there to play when you are just above the promotion cut off point?

I propose that the league standings be processed in the same way that a tournament standing is currently processed with a few tweaks. Using your best 10 match streak (or however many matches to be decided) playing divisional matches, then ranking the teams in order of points, goal difference and goals scored to decide who is to be promoted/relegated. An example would be if a users best 10 match streak playing divisional matches was W6-D2-L2 they would get 20 points in the final league standings table. If a user only plays 5 divisional matches within the week, they can only achieve 15 points.

To punish users that disconnect, a points penalty system should be introduced. Breaking a connection in a divisional game should deduct 1 point from your weeks standings, so if your best 10 game streak playing divisional matches for the week is W6 D2 L2, but you broke connection in two divisional matches your points tally would be (20 - 2) =18 points.

To implement this system no divisional ranking points would be gained/lost by playing tournament matches. Tournamets would be nothing to do with your weeks divisional play. This opens up a world of opportunities with regard to tournaments, a whole variety of competions could be created each with different rewards/unlocks ;)

Imagine the depth this way of doing things would add. Your weekly record can only get worse if you disconnect. You will be constantly batteling to add one or two more points to your weekly total, even scoring one more goal could prove the difference between relegation/promotion. A far cry to the current system that rewards you by sitting on 502 points, where one bad defeat against a lower division opponent unfairly cripples your points total.

This also opens up a club history opportunity, where a page could be designed to show a teams performance in previous seasons. More depth.

*** money matters *** At the moment the way we make money is directly related to how many matches you play. This gives an unfair advantage to those that have all day to play PES. If the money was related to your final points tally in this system, it would be fairer for everybody.

I am sure you agree, the divisional '10 match' rankings system is far better than what we have at the moment :)
 

Bredazuid

Registered User
MLO2 WITH YOUR REALLY OWN TEAM

How nice should it be that you start MLO2 with your really own team.

You create your own 16 players (names, looks, ect)
Every new MLO player start with the same ammount of quality points to fill the stats of his players the way he wants ofcourse to a certain maximum. Besides that a limited ammount of special ability awards. You have to divide all quality points over the stats of all players. Every player need to have a certain minimum to avoid undue differences between players.

The level of the startup team is amateur level. This means the overal quality is poor so you need money and better player to become a real professional team and maybe end up with a squad as Barcelona or real madrid.

Extra feature 1 – it should be possible to create up to a 5 teams so you can play MLO with several teams ofcourse not at the same time and not in same divisions
Extra feature 2 – Pick your own team colours visible for other online players as well.
Extra feature 3 – Own stadium to play your home matches against online opponents (no cartoons)

MORE REAL LEAGUES & CUPS = MORE FUN

How more fun is it to play real leagues in terms of playing thesame players twice and really can monitor your opponents. Its easy to create with more divisions. Another advantage is that you can change to a much better rating system.

I used to play a lot of poker and backgammon online and there are much better and competitive ways to run tournaments and leagues.

For example:

Every Tournament or league should be a lobby for a maximum number of players. As soon the lobby is filled the game starts. Entries should be higher to discourage quiters.

TRANSFERS AND POPULARITY

If you are in amateur level you can earn money like now to save for new players. Even if you have enough money good players are ofcourse not interested to play in the amateur leage. So you need to get it to the next level to get the players you want. To increase your chance of getting good players there should be a popularity factor.

If you often reach it to the semi finals or better you will generate more fans what means a bigger stadium and more money. Good results and/ or more fans can also lead to your first sponsor.

Dont forget you start as an amateur somewhere on a trainingfield without sponsors or fans.
You should also be rewarded with fans and a sponsor(s) for playing a lot of matches and not quiting or cheating otherwise. If you for example dont finish leages or tournaments your fans and sponsors will not like it.
 

Bredazuid

Registered User
@ gunnerglow

Add also a topic to discuss ideas regarding the transfer system. Here are also a lot of improvements to make
 

brunosebalo

Registered User
@ gunnerglow
I voted wrong:huh:
After reading your post I voted yes thinking that I had agreed with the opinion expressed in the post, silly mistake.
is there anyway I can vote again ???
 

gunnerglow

Registered User
***I have updated the original post regarding 'monney matters'***

Also - Do Konami visit this site? i want to forward this idea to them. It seems so much more fairer on everybody.

@brunosebalo - Thanks for voting, ableit ticking the wrong box!!! I do not know how it can be changed, never mind. Thanks for all your input so far.

@Bredazuid - Please feel free to create a topic using the same format. Presently i think the current transfer system i working well. Having all users trade with a Konami central bank is the only way to avoid cheaters transfering money between clubs. The only thing that could be improved would be to regulary update the players stats. Even if it was just the form value that was changed, it would make the market less stale.
 

pringleton

Registered User
I'm liking Breda's idea about starting your own team up. Dunno about whether it should be run along with real players but I do like the thought of me and my mates playing alongside Ronaldo in a stadium built at my house..

Perhaps better off keeping players seperate but then you'd really have to work hard and develop players and what if you get a really good offer from another club for your best mate?

Think that one has potential..
 
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