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Official PES 2009 Demo Feedback

What do you think of the demo?

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Sweey

*RETIRED*
2-Face said:
Right now i am at a friends house where we play the demo.

1. The goalkeepers are shit again. instead of just picking up the ball, Van der Sar makes a dive to it and you would think he will hold on to it, but no he punches it away WHILE LYING ON THE GROUND, Very awkward. I thought we were over that?? guess NOT!

2. The goalkeepers aren't as good as in the Leipzig build

3. The sound of the ball is my opinion way to loud and extreme

4. I had the feeling I was Messi even when i was a defender.

5. The pace is too fast. My eyes hurt.

6. On top player I won a match 5-4

I am so disappointed. this is a real let down. Everything they promised us, especially those guy's at WENB turned out to be false.


EDIT: o yeah, all my goals were scored in rebound. I wasn't happy when i scored a goal.
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I consider this an inaccurate review but will say no more.
 
Redmadlad

Redmadlad

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Theres no time for 9 goals in a 5 minute game on top player. That is a guarenteed lie, no matter which opponent you pick, they still have dangerous players and a good defence, it would be near impossible to stick 5 goals past them in such a short space of time, on top player.

Your first point, fair enough, the keepers do make some dodgy movements in their attempts to clear the ball but most keepers throw the odd funny shape during a game in real life.

Mate, try running with Jamie Carragher in the demo, youll know your not Messi, the ball sound is unneccessarily loud, i concur with that.
 
mufcsean

mufcsean

is LOST
willmo said:
delete it then. you censor everything else on here.
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Amateur

Amateur

Registered User
Redmadlad said:
Right guys sorry for the delay. I decided to play another few games to get a more overall view of the game and heres my conclusion. Pro's and cons included.

First off, Looks. Unbelievable. Konami have outdone themselves in the graphics department, i assure you that no screenshot or video will do this game justice until you have played it yourself and experienced it. During my first game Liverpool vs Real Madrid, i was shocked at how much more smoother and polished it appeared.

Konami have really taken into account the importance of "the little things" in these games. For instance, fans that look more realistic this time around holding scarves aloft and singing during the half time break, Ruud Van Nistelrooy giving Guti a pre-match team-talk on the pitch just before kick off, In the background Liverpool fans sung a rendition of "When the reds go marching in" as the game was playing, Barca fans with their drumming chant of "Barca!".

It appears each team has a selection of chants personal to them which the crowd sing during the game. I guess we will find out when the full game is released in 2 weeks. Either way, its another lovely little touch from Konami to add to the realism.

Secondly, the play. Even for someone such as myself, a seasoned PES gamer, the gameplay seemed totally different, newer, slower for a start, like a completely different game from the last version, but still recognisable as part of the PES series, this one will take some time to fully get to grips with.

The balls are alot more floaty in this edition of PES, the ball doesn't so much as zip along the grass anymore, and as a by-product, corners and throw-ins are rarer. The defensive AI is much better, no more gaping holes through the middle, as the centre-halves have those plugged pretty quickly, and as such, scoring chances were hard to come by for me to begin with.

1-2's no longer cut your opponent apart all the time, although the simple pass across the 6 yard box for the striker to tap in goal remains. Wingers do play an important part in most attacks now.

Shooting seems to have gotten harder, and 30 yard screamers are now impossible to pull off with anyone other than Gerrard et al. The goalkeeping AI has improved albeit not hugely, there are still fumbles but the higher the difficulty, the keeper does tend to get on top of any loose balls fairly quickly. And i've had a few one on ones now and short of rounding the keeper, it was hard to slot those away too.

In conclusion, this new game will take a while to master, you certainly won't pick it up straight away and be as good as you were on the last version, which is a good thing because it shows how much the game has changed, not just visually but the gameplay side of things too.

There are still some annoying little kinks of course, but hopefully time will work those out, namely the passing, its no longer a given to get it straight to your man, and the shooting, you'll balloon your shots for the first few times.

Any other requests, what you'd like to know if you don't want to wait, i'll be happy to oblige and answer them.

Liverpool aren't much good in the game unfortunately. Reina and the defence are pretty average, despite being the best defence in Europe over the past 3 seasons. Torres 33 goals last year did him no favours with Seabass it seems, nor did Babels impressive start to the season.

Ronaldo and Messi are unplayable and will take some stopping.
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I wanted to ask.. is it more Similar to PES5 -or- is it closer to PES08??

Judging by the Videos, it looks as though PES09 has gone back to the Old version's Style of Play.. But I'd like to know the Opinion of someone who's actually played the game.

Thanks in advance.
 
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vinee

Registered User
Ok, so I've installed the game and played it. I'm a huge fan of pes, but this is really emberassing. It's pes 2008 for 90%. Really dissapointing compared to the fifa demo.
The graphics suck and yes ... the gameplay is good. But nothing special. Just a yearly update with names and shirts

Nevertheless I'm a pes fan so i'll probably just buy it.
 
2xsngp

2xsngp

Registered User
2-Face said:
Right now i am at a friends house where we play the demo.

1. The goalkeepers are shit again. instead of just picking up the ball, Van der Sar makes a dive to it and you would think he will hold on to it, but no he punches it away WHILE LYING ON THE GROUND, Very awkward. I thought we were over that?? guess NOT!

2. The goalkeepers aren't as good as in the Leipzig build

3. The sound of the ball is my opinion way to loud and extreme

4. I had the feeling I was Messi even when i was a defender.

5. The pace is too fast. My eyes hurt.

6. On top player I won a match 5-4

I am so disappointed. this is a real let down. Everything they promised us, especially those guy's at WENB turned out to be false.


EDIT: o yeah, all my goals were scored in rebound. I wasn't happy when i scored a goal.
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Fanboy, no question... i think he has slated PES on other threads as well
 
2xsngp

2xsngp

Registered User
vinee said:
Ok, so I've installed the game and played it. I'm a huge fan of pes, but this is really emberassing. It's pes 2008 for 90%. Really dissapointing compared to the fifa demo.
The graphics suck and yes ... the gameplay is good. But nothing special. Just a yearly update with names and shirts
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And this one too... 1 post and it is slating PES and praising FIFA...
 
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riahc3

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Redmadlad said:
Liverpool aren't much good in the game unfortunately. Reina and the defence are pretty average, despite being the best defence in Europe over the past 3 seasons.
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Hahahaha.....Man that was funny.

The best defense in the world (and I hate the first team) is Real Madrid (Ramos, Pepe, Cannavaro, Heinze) and Arsenal (Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy)


Liverpool defense =
 
2xsngp

2xsngp

Registered User
PREMIUM said:
FIFA is going to be the better game this year though. Fanboy or not.
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see i think that is teh difference between PES fanboys and FIFA ones...

FIFA ones cant see past their own noses

But PES ones would admit that FIFA is looking ok this year... a work in progress... PES2009 we'll see but hopes are high
 
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PREMIUM

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I've bought PES for years before FIFA, but I think FIFA jumped a massive gear with 08 and this year I feel it'll be a more 'complete' and enjoyable game to play, judging on what I've seen in the two demos (with AA in the PS3 version this time). Forget fanboys and all that nonsense.
 
Redmadlad

Redmadlad

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@Amateur i'd say in gameplay its more akin to PES5 than last years version, but its not unrecognisable from PES2008. It inevitably retains some of the previous games' qualities though. I honestly can't get over how good the game looks in comparison to 2008, the graphics are insane, i just think the gameplay requires patience. Its a challenge to score, which is great in my opinion as it means goals will now be cherished more when they do go in.

As for Liverpools defence. Pepe Reina has won the golden glove 3 years in a row now, and apart from last season, the defence has been almost unpenetrable and we scored more goals than anyone else in europe last year, i just think those facts warranted better stats within the game, Torres isn't a patch on Eto'o, Henry or Rooney in the game, and as the general consensus say he is the best striker in europe, you'd think he'd deserve more.
 
2xsngp

2xsngp

Registered User
PREMIUM said:
I've bought PES for years before FIFA, but I think FIFA jumped a massive gear with 08 and this year I feel it'll be a more 'complete' and enjoyable game to play, judging on what I've seen in the two demos (with AA in the PS3 version this time). Forget fanboys and all that nonsense.
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ok... i do now respect your opinion a bit more now...

but i think that i will only 100% know after i have played both games after 17th Oct... i will rent FIFA (have already got PES on pre order from months ago) and see which i prefer... i am slightly bias to PES but i think it will be tight... so i reserve ful judgment until then
 
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