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Tech_Skill

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lmao, now WENB are turning on the play tester, i think one of the mods said the article wasnt very well informed and not well written.

Hahaha.

This is hilarous, this bloke gives his opinion, but konami and wenb dont like it, so they are trying to silence/ discredit him.
 
shaun7

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^It was his opinion yes, but that wasn't a review at all. He didn't comment well enough about the gameplay. All in all no one can judge on that review.
 
Tech_Skill

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shaun7 said:
^It was his opinion yes, but that wasn't a review at all. He didn't comment well enough about the gameplay. All in all no one can judge on that review.
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Obviously, Konami are obviously telling him to hold back

He played the version with the 'big features' but they told him not to tell.

WENB then made the biggest mistake and tried to discredit him because he didnt tow the line and pretend the build was amazing, they speculated he hadnt played the build with the big features, and said that bulid would be present at gamescom

So he came on their own forum and exposed them, he has played the build, they havent, he doesnt think the feature is a huge deal like wenb are making out either, which is why they are trying to discredit him.

Its down to his and their opinion, but they and konami are acting like bitches trying to take down his article.

Let the man speak, its his view.
 
shaun7

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^But still, that article wasn't really good because it wasn't deep and didn't explain why he said those things. It looked clear that he was acting like some pes hater (since he didn't give reasons why).Maybe that's the reason why the article was removed. Still we should wait until gamescom. That's when we are 100% sure the game will be with all the features.
 
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soc160

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Couple of rumours floating around forums are saying the "big news" is nothing more then new kits and new kit editing!The tester said "The "big news" were in the code I tried" he says *were* in this, if his english is up to scratch hes implying plural here, so either konami have done something amazing and brought in 360 movement and something else, or they have brought in a few pointless features that arent big at all.... if they dont have some serious big news theyll be shot down and have wasted another year builiding a game we alreday have.
 
Perfectstrik

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one thing that did stand out which is rather important is that he stated the passing still is not up to the grade of the ps2 versions which is what people dont want to hear.

wenb are a load of idiots these guys where telling konami not to release the videos of pes09 after the trade show last year,they just like konami are the masters of smoke and mirrors.....

remember this guy is independant not in jon murphys and konamis pocket like wenb and pesfan who to be fair run there sights like dictators and control and deleat any comments that dont fit into there own personal views or are in anyway negative.

so who do you believe more?

the fact is konami have no intention to ditch 8-axis movement as they believe much like capcom with resident evil this is what makes there game unique ie twitchy control,restrictive movement and limited 90 and 45 degree passing.Its never going to change its a mentality thing and a game producers preference for the d-pad.

you only have to look at pes over the last ten years its never changed its always been on rails...
 
Tech_Skill

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shaun7 said:
^But still, that article wasn't really good because it wasn't deep and didn't explain why he said those things. It looked clear that he was acting like some pes hater (since he didn't give reasons why).Maybe that's the reason why the article was removed. Still we should wait until gamescom. That's when we are 100% sure the game will be with all the features.
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Nah, there is a difference between telling the truth as you see it and being a hater.

And let me stress, Erik is implying, these are 'features' rather than one big super feature.

Either way, next week, either him or wenb are gonna look fucking stupid, I know who my money's on.

PS. wenb are now saying erik's article broke the NDA, thats why it went down,

Even fucking worse! He didnt even go into huge details, and they reckon the NDA has been broken, apparently, they previously gave him the okay to put this shit up in the 1st place.

Bizzare.
 
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If it had 360 and/or motion capture, then he wouldn't be so "negative" towards the actual gameplay. He said, that apart for some minor tweaks and new graphical changes, there wasn't that much of a difference. Some players battled for the ball and so forth. Also the responsivenes had been reduced, so the game felt more FIFA'ish with some 10th of a second lag from the buttonpress to it moving on screen. That remark though could be because of the mo-cap, since it would take a very small amout of time to seam the motions together. But he didn't at all sound like he implied that mo-cap was in the game, and that is what is puzzleing me... Mo-cap should 100% be implemented in the game.
 
shaun7

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^I agree about mocaps. That's why I won't take notice of that article.
It wasn't actually telling the truth tech skill. The article wasn't deep enough to judge something on it.
 
Tech_Skill

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FIORE_FAN said:
If it had 360 and/or motion capture, then he wouldn't be so "negative" towards the actual gameplay. He said, that apart for some minor tweaks and new graphical changes, there wasn't that much of a difference. Some players battled for the ball and so forth. Also the responsivenes had been reduced, so the game felt more FIFA'ish with some 10th of a second lag from the buttonpress to it moving on screen. That remark though could be because of the mo-cap, since it would take a very small amout of time to seam the motions together. But he didn't at all sound like he implied that mo-cap was in the game, and that is what is puzzleing me... Mo-cap should 100% be implemented in the game.
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Here's the question.

Why are konami letting people play these builds that are supposedly (according to them) really far away from what the actual game will be like?

This is getting silly now, game is due out in about 8 weeks from now.

EA actually have 360 movement confirmed and they went about annoucing their ideas the exact oppositie of konami.

It went like this.

-Annouce major improvements 1st
-Put 360 in earliest test build
-Then drip feed media with tiny improvements until release.

Now if certain posters are to be believed, this is how konami have done it.

-Drip feed media with little to no info
-Release a 50% build eerrily similar to that of pes09, with 8 directions
-Cram in 360 movement and unreal features etc weeks before release.

It doesnt seem right.
 
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Comment from Caniggia on his blog: Postat av: Caniggia
Hey Guys

Konami won't let me publish the article until next wednesday (slight misunderstanding). However I can tell you that I am quite euphoric about the game.
2009-08-12 @ 17:22:34

Maybe he's got another build/version then Level7?
 
Tech_Skill

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jameslv said:
big hint from Caniggia that the Euphoria engine is in.
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And caniggia has now said that wasnt him, that was someone impersonatating him, and he has removed the comment and banned them from using the blog.

You know what, this whole thing is just a joke, total mess, one person saying one thing, and one saying another, if this game doesnt have this engine, its a joke, because wenb have been making clear references to this for a while now.

You know what, im gonna have to be honest, looking logically at what we have seen from the gameplay, the two builds that have been playtested, the gameplay we have seen, i believe this erik bloke is telling it how it is.

WENB are in konami's pockets no matter what, i dont trust them at the moment when it comes to giving a proper account of the game.

Typical Konami, smoke and mirrors bullshit all the way.

By the way Apparently you can put your created teams on the master league now.
 
Perfectstrik

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And caniggia has now said that wasnt him, that was someone impersonatating him, and he has removed the comment and banned them from using the blog.

You know what, this whole thing is just a joke, total mess, one person saying one thing, and one saying another, if this game doesnt have this engine, its a joke, because wenb have been making clear references to this for a while now.

You know what, im gonna have to be honest, looking logically at what we have seen from the gameplay, the two builds that have been playtested, the gameplay we have seen, i believe this erik bloke is telling it how it is.

WENB are in konami's pockets no matter what, i dont trust them at the moment when it comes to giving a proper account of the game.

Typical Konami, smoke and mirrors bullshit all the way.

By the way Apparently you can put your created teams on the master league now.

your closer to the truth then people give you credit for
 
shankly is god

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^^ you get it with every game when companies will release information then other people who are supposedly "connected" will release teasers to keep people interested in the game.....from my POV I will only trust facts and figures that have been released by trusted people backed up with pics....and then ofc when the game comes out
 
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i have a feeling Cannagia was a doing a sort of double agent thing. He posted it to let us know euphoria was in, then pretended it was someone else and blamed it on them. Like on this site we cant post on the front page only on the forums, it must be him or someone he knows
 
Tech_Skill

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jameslv said:
i have a feeling Cannagia was a doing a sort of double agent thing. He posted it to let us know euphoria was in, then pretended it was someone else and blamed it on them. Like on this site we cant post on the front page only on the forums, it must be him or someone he knows
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I was thinking something similar.

Then i thought, who gives a fuck

They way Konami are handling this is a joke, seriously

Bottom line is this.

Today we got play test details from someone who has tested the game for konami 5 years running, saying he played the build with 'the big features' and he still wasnt that impressed, he even told people 'not to expect a megaton'.

Then you got people who havent even played the game on WENB telling him he is wrong and trying to discredit him.

Stupid, the whole thing is stupid.
 
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