The GAMESCOM Thread

[Tech_Skill]

TECH

fifa or pro? because i cant tell if ur a fifa fanboy

Lets put it this way.

PES has always had good depth in gameplay, before the AI fucking totally ruined alot of it with the constant scripting, its the kind of game that you can play for ages, I did up to 15 seasons with one team in ML then started again with another, decent edit mode as well.

If Konami were smart: which they are not....

Right now I dont think they can win in the realism stakes, at least until they get a new engine.

What they should be doing is making the next pes, fully customizable, nets, scoreboard, boots, kits, player styles (which they are obviously doing at the mo) make everything single thing possible customisable...thats the only way forward for them right now, it would increase the longevity of the game by tons.

They should also stop calling the game pes 2010 etc, go back to pes7 and release every two years or only release when the game is finished. There is no need to release a pes every year, release a base game every 2 or so years but offer constant upgrades tweaks and patches via DLC and make tons of money off it.

 

[shaun7]

Mate you cant answer any of my points, seriously, stop quoting, and let someone who actually knows what they are talking about reply.

And no mate, im never angry, Its just a bit of banter mate, nothing personal.



Ohhh, so now you wanna talk about fifa????

I thought the whole reason you got upset was because of comparisions to fifa.

Why the fuck is it, when you lot cant answer a basic question on PES, you resort to...

"Yea but dat fifa iz shit gayme man, eeeven doh i play liyke 2 mins of it on assyted"

Ask me any question about either fucking game mate, here comes your 15 mins of fame.

Tech stupid skill. I never said anything about talking about fifa. I always commented on how you're being biased towards fifa.
I wanted to talk about fifa's negatives. You were the one that avoided them and continued to bash pes.:faceplm:
But I guess you cannot do it because you're way too biased towards fifa to talk about it's negative points. Answer my question And then ask me what you want.

 

[Tech_Skill]

Tech stupid skill. I never said anything about talking about fifa. I always commented on how you're being biased towards fifa.
I wanted to talk about fifa's negatives. You were the one that avoided them and continued to bash pes.:faceplm:
But I guess you cannot do it because you're way too biased towards fifa to talk about it's negative points. Answer my question And then ask me what you want.

DUHHHHHHHHHHH.

Please dont fucking tell me you havent winged once about fifa talk on a pes gaming forum.

I have never said fifa doesn't have flaws, thats the answer to your question mate, go see fifa 10 thread mate, all you'll see in there is me talking about the flaws in 09 that are gonna get changed for this year.

How fucking ironic is this, im trying to talk about pes.....

Lets put it this way.

PES has always had good depth in gameplay, before the AI fucking totally ruined alot of it with the constant scripting, its the kind of game that you can play for ages, I did up to 15 seasons with one team in ML then started again with another, decent edit mode as well.

If Konami were smart: which they are not....

Right now I dont think they can win in the realism stakes, at least until they get a new engine.

What they should be doing is making the next pes, fully customizable, nets, scoreboard, boots, kits, player styles (which they are obviously doing at the mo) make everything single thing possible customisable...thats the only way forward for them right now, it would increase the longevity of the game by tons.

They should also stop calling the game pes 2010 etc, go back to pes7 and release every two years or only release when the game is finished. There is no need to release a pes every year, release a base game every 2 or so years but offer constant upgrades tweaks and patches via DLC and make tons of money off it.

and you got a bunch of tards desperate to question me about fifa.

"Tech stop going on about fifa!!"

2 mins later

"Tech your not answering my questions about fifa!!!"

Hopeless.

 

[byondthought]

Seabass needs to think more along these lines...

"The general principle is a drive towards complexity and realism, removing automated elements of gameplay in favour of minutely modelled and finely tuned mechanisms that offer a far greater variety of potential outcomes."

 

[Tech_Skill]

Seabass needs to think more along these lines...

"The general principle is a drive towards complexity and realism, removing automated elements of gameplay in favour of minutely modelled and finely tuned mechanisms that offer a far greater variety of potential outcomes."

Lol, he's had ages to think along those lines. But he's so far detached from reality he doesnt have a clue.

Until pes gets a new engine, they need to make EVERYTHING possible customizable, the chance of the user being able to build their own unique version of pes would go down a storm. Then...

Release one base game, lets call it pes 7, which they can release upgrades, patches, content etc via dlc for money, (rather than releasing a shit game every year), this can keep the game fresh and up to date until they release the new base game (in this case pes 8) with a total new engine etc etc.

Breakdown for the usuals who cannot understand the basics.

Rather than, pes2010, pes 2011, pes 2012.

Make "PES7" with the ablity to let the user change as much as is humanly possible from the nets, to the adboards, to the GUI....everything.

Then instead of releasing the same game with updates kits and claiming its a brand new game....... release kit updates, ai patches, commentary packs, transfer packs for the current version via DLC for money.

Then when an actual significantly new version of the game is ready to be released after say about 2 or so years, bring that out as "PES8" and spend the next year working on more upgrades for it by DLC etc.

 

[byondthought]

Lol, he's had ages to think along those lines. But he's so far detached from reality he doesnt have a clue.

Until pes gets a new engine, they need to make EVERYTHING possible customizable, the chance of the user being able to build their own unique version of pes would go down a storm. Then...

Release one base game, lets call it pes 7, which they can release upgrades, patches, content etc via dlc for money, (rather than releasing a shit game every year), this can keep the game fresh and up to date until they release the new base game (in this case pes 8) with a total new engine etc etc.

Gary Patterson is the new Scotish Seabass..!!!

i'll send you a link thats a good read...

dont wont to post it here as people will start to cry...

 

[shaun7]

DUHHHHHHHHHHH.

Please dont fucking tell me you havent winged once about fifa talk on a pes gaming forum.

I have never said fifa doesn't have flaws, thats the answer to your question mate, go see fifa 10 thread mate, all you'll see in there is me talking about the flaws in 09 that are gonna get changed for this year.
.

Tech,for the last time. I have never said anything to you about talking about fifa. I always commented on you bashing pes and praising fifa in a pes forum but not talking about fifa as such.
But I want you to comment on the negatives of fifa 10 from the videos. Same as you're doing with pes 2010.
As SIMPLE as the word simple is.
You are always missing that point.
But let's forget that for now, until you start bashing pes again.

 

[Sweey]

I have it on good authority this thread has 37 pages of the same argument going on and on and on.

If that's the case, grow up, change the subject and don't attempt to defend your posts to me. Debate things up to a point and then put the fact this is a game into perspective. There's nothing wrong with passion for a game but it has its limits.

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Ohhh, so now you wanna talk about fifa????

I thought the whole reason you got upset was because of comparisions to fifa.

Tech_Skill he was saying that you were only saying Fifa's good things, and not the bad things, thats all.

Atleast make more balanced opinion.

I agree with you about something, but I cant remember what it is right now lol, I will edit this post whe I remember.:blush:

 

[byondthought]

Tech_Skill he was saying that you were only saying Fifa's good things, and not the bad things, thats all.

Atleast make more balanced opinion.

I agree with you about something, but I cant remember what it is right now lol, I will edit this post whe I remember.:blush:

Why would you want to talk about fifas bad things and bringing them into pes...!!

does anyone know what happened to the eupohria engine????

 

[Dragonfly]

I agree that Tech should at least try to show some balanced critique towards FIFA. It seems to be "good things about FIFA" and "bad things about PES".

I have it on good authority this thread has 37 pages of the same argument going on and on and on.

If that's the case, grow up, change the subject and don't attempt to defend your posts to me. Debate things up to a point and then put the fact this is a game into perspective. There's nothing wrong with passion for a game but it has its limits.

I was going to suggest Baddar close this thread, for that precise reason, but since you're here.

 

[Sweey]

I was going to suggest Baddar close this thread, for that precise reason, but since you're here.

Baddar's probably gone to slit his wrists. Hunter and I are both considering closing this although I'm giving them a chance to change. A small chance.

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Why would you want to talk about fifas bad things and bringing them into pes...!!

does anyone know what happened to the eupohria engine????

When did I say, bring Fifa's bad things into PES.:unsure:

Thats what Seabass is doing already lol.

All I said was he should be more balanced in his opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Baddar's probably gone to slit his wrists. Hunter and I are both considering closing this although I'm giving them a chance to change. A small chance.

Dont shut it down, Jesus, cant you see this thread is brilliant.

Its like 1 vs 100, Tech_Skill vs Everybody else lol.

P.S- Baddar is a cock, rushed in to give me a yellow for double posting, but then I told him to read back and look, I quoted someone and it said I quoted me.

 

[byondthought]

I agree that Tech should at least try to show some balanced critique towards FIFA. It seems to be "good things about FIFA" and "bad things about pes

:no:

Thats exactly what we should be talking about...!!!

 

[chinaman]

fifa 10 to me just seems like there has been a lot of work put into the game, whereas pes is just has updated graphics and sliders which fifa 09 had.

Every tackle is different, every shot is different, in fifa, whereas in pro evo, you get the same tackle, same toe poke shots, same goalkeeper fumbles , same robotic animations, etc.

My opinion.

 

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

fifa 10 to me just seems like there has been a lot of work put into the game, whereas pes is just has updated graphics and sliders which fifa 09 had.

Every tackle is different, every shot is different, in fifa, whereas in pro evo, you get the same tackle, same toe poke shots, same goalkeeper fumbles , same robotic animations, etc.

My opinion.

Shooting is the same in Fifa, well every goal is the same.

 

[chinaman]

Shooting is the same in Fifa, well every goal is the same.

well that's like saying every day is the same. There is so much variety in shot animations in fifa 10.

 

[byondthought]

fifa 10 to me just seems like there has been a lot of work put into the game, whereas pes is just has updated graphics and sliders which fifa 09 had.

Every tackle is different, every shot is different, in fifa, whereas in pro evo, you get the same tackle, same toe poke shots, same goalkeeper fumbles , same robotic animations, etc.

My opinion.

Dont worry PES2010 has the euphoria engine, its just they havent put it in for the gamescom demo....hhehe

should only take um 3 weeks..!!!

 

[Sweey]

Dont shut it down, Jesus, cant you see this thread is brilliant.

Its like 1 vs 100, Tech_Skill vs Everybody else lol.

P.S- Baddar is a cock, rushed in to give me a yellow for double posting, but then I told him to read back and look, I quoted someone and it said I quoted me.

Explain why I shouldn't book you for calling a mod a cock. I suggest you think before you post. Anyone can make a mistake - there's a ton of them in this thread alone.

We have a rule about language/behaviour towards admins and mods - I've not just pulled this one out of my hat.