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hjgf you dont even need to play pes 12 to understand it's better than fifa this year, unless they only have taken steps backwards since pes 11. Think about this.. If the previous pes's which was sort of ''off form'', was able to give fifa which is ''on form'' a fight, and make many people...

i dont think Jonny boy would be so cocky about the game and use such strong words if pes actually was still shit this year. Even if this years pes is gonna have some flaws, im pretty sure im gonna enjoy it and finally have a football game that is worth spending money at

the biggest reason for playing pes 2011 (and 12 soon) for me is because it gives me almost the exact kind of fun i have when im playing football irl... which for me is the most important factor in a football game. pes doesnt play exactly like real life football, but it kinda feels like it anyway

If Konami removes control teammate feature next year, then I'll be heavily disappointed in them unless they replace it with something that is better (whatever that would be..).

saf seems like konami is getting their confidence back and really seem to care about their pes game this time around, i don't see any reason to even touch fifa this year.

Controlling team mate on assisted setting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnDtf3PyI7c&feature=player_embedded Controlling team mate with manual setting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF3eLatNOqw&feature=player_embedded

sfasdg I think it is safe to say the feature is in... those Wenb guys wouldnt lie about whether a feature is in or not, they would lie about how good it is. yup yup!

Alan and adam over at wenb is talkin about you being able to control a 2nd player to manually make a run wherever you want just like in Fifa 04. I'm very impressed if that's true :o

n nop, not the nets, that been known by everyone for a long time. im guessing its some boring online improvement! :D

''Adam wrote: Guys I thought I'd pop in here and say Konami have nailed PES 2012. Preview code has hit some place, mine is around a week away, and trusted sources are telling me the games has come on another level. We're talking shooting, keepers, more added animations (don't take it as FIFA...

adfaf in pes 11, the defenders catching up is a script thingy which will be gone in 12 they say.. Its time amateur studied game development i think :D

orrrr ooooorrr you could just play online 11vs11 for no more ai cheating! naww.. just kiddin

fbsfg Tbh, I think there's a reason Jon feels cocky about the gameplay part of pes, and the reason is that he just knows that they have finally nailed it this year.. atleast the ai part of gameplay.. And even the previews of this game are lookin good, so I think this year will be a gooooodyear

mhm I actually think fifa 04 had that feature where you pressed a button, then three of your front players would be highlighted, and you could press the button again to switch between em and use the right analogue stick to make them run exactly where you wanted. One of the most perfect things i...

jkhjfgh it is a shame that there arent any people employeed in ea or konami that actually have this extreme will to make the best football game there ever was, theyre just happy if they make just enough improvement to make the fanbase think they actually care for them :D

but let's say if the list of improvements we've been shown until now live up to the expectations, will that make pes 2012 a great game this year then?

hah you can clearly see the pes 2009 (or 08?) fake shot feint animation... so yeah it is indeed pes 2012!

mm according to certain sources.. the most of the big flaws from 2011 will be fixed, and with konami adding different playstyles from latino and european leagues, according to the developers, and AI being smarter, i dont see why it wont be enjoyable for those who love football.. but we'll see...

y im pretty sure it will be atleast better than 2011, so it wont probably be thaaattt bad.. ..hopefully

mhhhh no matter what konami might put out this year, i feel pretty certain that it will be a decent game (might turn out to be either just decent or suprisingly good) and that ea will put out a game thats just as shallow and plastic as last year... but its pretty neato if you like dribbling...