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Thanks a mil! Very appreciated! :)

Thanks a bunch for your hard work! It's really, really appreciated and I hope you realize that! :) Again, thank you!

dwevans (or anyone with insight): I've read the original post, but I haven't found an answer to the question: have the players' stats in any shape, form or fashion been edited?

dan19: did the magazine say that it's going to be a managment game only, like football manager and championship manager, or that it's going to expand a lot on the managment side but still play like the previous pes incarnations?

i think i'm IN LOVE WITH pes4 (and my girlfriend's worst fears are confirmed; she's now in second place), and i've only played ONE game so far. but i don't think it matters. last year i was a little bit disapointed with pes3, so i thought that i'd be the same with the fourth incarnation. i was...

un-nicked: yes, i know. but thanks for pointing it out.

the first time, most likely inter. they're nice to play with in pes3, atleast. heh. but since there's no club team in pes4 that i support, i'll create the swedish team malmö ff shortly there after and start ml with them.

as mentioned, that's not the actual speed of the game. just look how fast their little legs go. heh. i loved the animation when giggs get a penalty when he's dropped in the box in the man u-chelsea video. how he, after his rolling around, looks up, and then a couple of chelsea players protest...

if a kid (and even adults?) who perhaps never played a pes game before, looks around after a football game and he sees henry and totti on the cover, then i'd say he's likely to pick up pes4 over a football game that has a cover like pes2. well, i know i probably would have in my younger days...

that doesn't look like an "official cover", it's so amateurish. plus, the background for the cover is just the same as a promotional cover, like the one seen on this site: feels like some nerdy kid used his horrible photoshop "skills".

getting henry on the cover is a huge step forward for the pes series, in terms of marketing. it's lovely. now hopefully, there'll be one or two non-english players on the cover, too. so those football interested gamers who are supporters of, say, serie a and la liga clubs, will notice pes4.

i got to go with huylens, vorlander and burchet. i think that huylens have scored the most goals for me as of late, vorlander`s a solid defender and burchet can handle things on the right side of the midfield pretty well. celnili isn`t that bad, either.